[Kathy]

Or you should have guessed to use youtube.com instead of youtu.be.

[Kathy]

Ask Google. But probably because it is shorter that way to share.

[X-Vector]

Teenage Head - Let it show (live in Toronto 1980/1981)

[Kathy]

Brave
Murder
Day

[Mark]

Alan, on 17 July 2013 - 04:58 AM, said:

I bought that album 32 years ago and still have it. Damn, I'm getting old.

[Zaxtor]

James - Laid (1993)

[Alan]

Mark., on 28 July 2013 - 03:03 AM, said:

I bought that album 32 years ago and still have it. Damn, I'm getting old.

Yeah, you guys had it all.

[MusicallyInspired]

[Mark]

Alan, on 02 August 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

Yeah, you guys had it all.

Yep. I was there for the birth of Heavy Metal. I was 12 years old in 1970 when I bought my first FM radio. I tuned in a station playing the title track from Black Sabbath's first album. I put away the old 45's of pop music I had at the time and went head first into this new stuff. My friends were way slower to jump in. I still have that case of 45's. I'll have to go through them for old times sake this weekend.

BTW, that video was great. Wow. I just went to their website and listened to a bunch of songs. I'll probably buy all 3 of the cd's.

[Kathy]

Did they really play 'Black Sabbath' on radio then? 6 minutes long, musically not radio friendly and not a single. I think you're talking about 'Paranoid'.

[Mark]

It was station WZMF just outside Milwaukee WI. They played a lot of stuff that other stations wouldn't touch. I think they closed down around 1978 or 79. It was the track I mentioned.

[Kathy]

Oh, alright.

I don't understand the yearning to be at the birth of [insert musical genre]. So what if Mark. had it all? It's not like we can't have almost the same.

Although I would have preferred more vinyl reissues now, that's not what music about anyway.

[Engel220]

Kathy, on 03 August 2013 - 04:03 AM, said:

Oh, alright.

I don't understand the yearning to be at the birth of [insert musical genre]. So what if Mark. had it all? It's not like we can't have almost the same.

Although I would have preferred more vinyl reissues now, that's not what music about anyway.

It is personally significant when you can clearly recall the birth of a major new genre of music, especially with Heavy Metal being now one of the most significant, diverse and broadly defined genres in recent human history, and being a fan of Heavy Metal myself I wish I could say the same. It doesn't mean we all can't enjoy the music all the same, we can, but it's interesting when you hear of all of the controversy surrounding bands like Black Sabbath at the time (Satanic sounds and themes and their appearance) and then wondering what it would've been like to have been in that time and knowing what the music world was like before that now genre-defining and somewhat frightening riff was that 'Black Sabbath' first appeared.

Also, considering the rise in the sales of vinyl and the success of Record Store Day reissues are becoming more and more in-demand.

[Kathy]

Engel220, on 03 August 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

It is personally significant when you can clearly recall the birth of a major new genre of music, especially with Heavy Metal being now one of the most significant, diverse and broadly defined genres in recent human history,

Aren't you a bit overstating? If you include it into "rock music" then maybe.

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Also, considering the rise in the sales of vinyl and the success of Record Store Day reissues are becoming more and more in-demand.

I know, but I still want more. The whole cover art is quite important.

Also, there is some other thing. I remember being somewhat surprised by Meddle and Atom Heart Mother songs. Cause after Meddle's introduction we have short whatever songs(as I remember, haven't listened as of late) and then a big whooping epic. The same could be said about ATM. Only later I realised vinyl's significance in songs spacing. So... I'd rather listen album on its original format cause it mattered at the time. The same goes about listening CD albums on vinyl. Some bands/lables reissue 60+ minute albums on 2 LPs which is not an optimal way of doing things.

[Hool]

http://c418.bandcamp.com/track/one

The entire album is terrific work.

[Kathy]

[Alan]

Kathy, on 03 August 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Aren't you a bit overstating? If you include it into "rock music" then maybe.

Aside from the basic elements, different subgenres of metal can vary greatly, especially by region. Scandinavian folk metal incorporates a lot more string instruments than garden variety heavy metal, and female vocalists with softer styles are not uncommon. Then you have thrash and death metal with crushing, aggressive instrumentals and a very primal sound in their vocals.

[Kathy]

I was taken aback by the whole statement that it is "one of the most significant, diverse and broadly defined genres in recent human history".

P.S. Most of my music collection is metal.

[Alan]

Oh, I don't think it's significant to most people, at least in part because a lot of it doesn't sound like a typical "four chord song," and because most people don't like the sound of music driven by testosterone and booze.

[Kathy]

Alan, on 05 August 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

because most people don't like the sound of music driven by testosterone and booze.

Come again?

[MusicallyInspired]

Most pop songs years ago were never as 4-chord prevalent as they are now (almost every single song).

[Kathy]

Don't know about chords, but "Verse-Chorus" progression is seriously pissing me off.

I probably should ramp up my musical theoretical knowledge.

[Alan]

Kathy, on 05 August 2013 - 06:42 AM, said:

Come again?

The start of the 90s were the closest heavy metal came to being accepted as a mainstream genre. Between Bryan Adams and Metallica, which do you think got the most airtime in 1991?

[Kathy]

I don't understand the "music driven by testosterone and booze" comment.

Btw, when talking about "heavy metal" you're basically talking about metal and not a subgenre for bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, King Diamond etc.?

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The start of the 90s were the closest heavy metal came to being accepted as a mainstream genre. Between Bryan Adams and Metallica, which do you think got the most airtime in 1991?

It was more about Metallica than metal genre. The same goes for Pink Floyd and prog rock for example. Although, with being there a poster child for a genre surely helped make other bands visible. Maybe in 90s because of Metallica other metal bands saw some spikes in sales.

[Engel220]

Kathy, on 05 August 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Btw, when talking about "heavy metal" you're basically talking about metal and not a subgenre for bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, King Diamond etc.?

Heavy Metal was the term first coined to describe Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, as I'm certain you know, and while it has many spinoff genres 'Heavy Metal' is basically the chosen blanket term that some people use even if they're talking about a band from a sub-genre. Obviously sub-genres exist, because of both musical creative differences and as a way to seperate one band from another. For example, a band like Municipal Waste who are what's known as 'Crossover Thrash' doesn't exactly seem the same compared to a band like Motley Crue, who are Glam Metal. 'Heavy Metal' is just a blanket term to sum up the genre as a whole, but in reality it's like a tree; many branches going in different directions, but they all can be traced back to one set of roots.

[Kathy]

Actually, I didn't know that. I always thought 'heavy metal' was a subgenre of 'metal'. Didn't cross my mind that it was one of the first terms to describe heavy metal bands when there weren't any other 'metals' and only later came NWOHM, speed metal, thrash metal and so forth.

Maybe because I'm not from english-speaking country.

[Engel220]

Kathy, on 06 August 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

Actually, I didn't know that. I always thought 'heavy metal' was a subgenre of 'metal'. Didn't cross my mind that it was one of the first terms to describe heavy metal bands when there weren't any other 'metals' and only later came NWOHM, speed metal, thrash metal and so forth.

Maybe because I'm not from english-speaking country.

'Heavy Metal' came first with Black Sabbath in the seventies after the term was coined (Sabbath were also a reference point of the 'Doom Metal' genre that was based around bands using their sound as inspiration) then NWOBHM followed a bit later on through the mid 70s/early 80s, then Thrash began in the US from the early 80s, and then all kinds of new genres came up from the 80s and onwards.

Also, you had a good enough of a grasp on English to fool me. I assumed you were either American, British or you were just skilled with the language.

Anyway, enough of my tedious blatherings, on topic;

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtTUzaHly8o

[Alan]

Kathy, on 05 August 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

I don't understand the "music driven by testosterone and booze" comment.

All I was referring to was the tone and the stereotype. Metal tends to be a more aggressive genre than others, which is a turn-off for people.

[Komenja]

I just found a cassette player plus some Def Leppard and Dokken tapes at a pawn shop, so that's what I'm listening to.

[X-Vector]

Reverend Horton Heat - Psychobilly Freakout