Marked, on 02 October 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:
Don't hate on me for saying it, but in my opinion if a Duke movie played it close to the game it would be a shallow and short movie. It has to be fleshed out with all sorts of other stuff that wouldn't be found in the game. Maybe its old age speaking, but after decades of seeing action movies with a "clever one liner" action hero this would be more of the same. For my enjoyment the movie would have to expand it's scope a bit.
I'm afraid that's missing the entire point of the character.
What you really need is a solid plot, and I don't mean a synopsis. Too many people when i've had this discussion about a film i'll ask "What do you think that plot should be?" and they'll reference one of the games story set ups "It should be like Duke 3D where he fights aliens in the city and with strippers and one liners." Yeah, but that's not a plot. That's a couple ideas, a partial synopsis. Beat-by-beat for events to fill at least an hour and a half? It gets more and more difficult. Duke isn't just "simple." He's more along the lines of "makes this look easy" when it comes to writing. For a game there's not much writing to be done. Aliens invade, Duke gets involved, shoots them through a bunch of levels having hilarious encounters along the way, rescuing babes, until he finds the big bad and kills him and does something funny to his corpse. That's not a very strong movie, though.
I think the way to combat the shallow nature of Duke is to get the world popping. There are other characters which could add additional dimensions without bastardizing the Duke character. Bombshell gives Duke a girl to try and "get" which he can never quite get. Graves gives him a mentor figure who can handle more of the serious drama, and give us a second awesome male voice to listen to delivering meaty dialogue. Proton as a villain was never really fleshed out, but I think that could actually give a movie more gravity if Proton's story was explored on screen. (Also, making him a very clever villain and not just a mustache twirler would help.)
I think what a good Duke Movie would really need is to put the over-the-top and 80's retro character into a fully fleshed out and realized world that is actually mostly serious and played straight. That way Duke's personality would seem all the more politically incorrect, larger than life, and interesting. He'd be the one guy not living in srs bsns land.
Just look at the original Men in Black for a prime example. Everyone except WIll Smith plays the scenes straight. Will Smith plays them for comedy. If Tommy Lee Jones wasn't giving a stone faced "Well, alright" performance, Will Smith's "Aw Hell naw" performance wouldn't be nearly as entertaining.
I've written several different scripts for a Duke Movie over the years, and i've come to the conclusion that it's not an easy task to master the nature of the character in movie form. It would require several really talented writers bringing their strengths to the table. I'd start with someone who is very good at plotting, then bring in a really good action writer, and then finally i'd have a third writer go in and write stronger comedy and one liners. Then i'd bring them all back, and have them take the best elements of each draft and combine it into one smoothed over and solid screenplay.