[Inspector Lagomorf]

I can't believe that all of you are buying what Radar is saying right now.

[Kathy]

These forums should have higher system requirements so that the likes of Radar wouldn't be able to write. Can we add lots of flash here?

[MusicallyInspired]

I used to have to get away with minimal settings. Back in 1999 I was running Counter-Strike at an average of 10 FPS with a Diamond Monster 3D Voodoo 1 addon card with a Matrox Mystique on a Celeron 266MHz with probably less than 128MB RAM. I got real familiar with the necessary console command tweaks to lower the game settings even lower than they allowed by default. That is, until they started forcing a certain set of settings online to prevent cheating. Good times. It literally wasn't until a few years ago that I could actually afford to get something that could play modern games at mid to high range settings. Before that I was always below the line, compromising quality for bare minimum playability.

It's so nice to go back to these old games and see them load instantly with framerate in the hundreds.

[Radar]

Cathy, on 29 May 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

These forums should have higher system requirements so that the likes of Radar wouldn't be able to write. Can we add lots of flash here?

Nooo. The "What are you listening to?" thread is already off limits for me.

[Kathy]

How much posts do you have per page?

[Radar]

I had 29 on the last page. I use Google Chrome, which is extremely optimized. Mozilla and Internet Explorer lag like heck on this computer.

Btw, I just checked my system to verify if my specs were accurate. My computer actually has a 1.5 GHz single-core instead of 1.8 GHz. My bad.

[Kathy]

You can decrease posts per page to 20.

Me, having a good PC, can go to ultra settings with 50 posts per page.

[leilei]

MusicallyInspired, on 29 May 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

I used to have to get away with minimal settings. Back in 1999 I was running Counter-Strike at an average of 10 FPS with a Diamond Monster 3D Voodoo 1 addon card with a Matrox Mystique on a Celeron 266MHz with probably less than 128MB RAM

I blame the Celeron for stinking the experience for that one. A PowerVR PCX2 (less than a Voodoo1 in many cases) in a "proper" Pentium II actually is playable even with the smoke detail. The slowness of Half-Life had a lot to do with texture switching (which the PCX2 can tolerate fine through the tiled approach), colored dynamic lighting updates (pushing 24-bit lightmap texture processing and uploading per tic) and skeletal rendering.

Radar, on 30 May 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

I use Google Chrome, which is extremely optimized

I'm gonna have to call bullshit on this one as Chrome needs multiple cores for it to work well. For an old early generation Pentium IV single core system like that you'll need either Opera or an older Seamonkey (like 1.1.x) for an "optimized" browser experience. Using Flash is pretty much futile at this point.

[Radar]

I just changed it to 50 posts per page. Runs like butter. Does that mean I have a good PC too?

I'm really considering grabbing a copy of Doom 3, Farcry, and Half-Life 2 and showing the world that they work on my 11-year-old supercomputer.

leilei, on 30 May 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm gonna have to call bullshit on this one as Chrome needs multiple cores for it to work well. For an old early generation Pentium IV single core system like that you'll need either Opera or an older Seamonkey (like 1.1.x) for an "optimized" browser experience. Using Flash is pretty much futile at this point.

Well, I dunno then. What do you want me to say? Somehow, things work.

[leilei]

Doom3 and Farcry will run because it has a legacy path in the renderer. I don't know what you're trying to prove. Some sort of retro rig "pissing contest"?

You can forget Half-Life 2 since it had an 'orange box' engine update which deprecated its DX7 rendering path for visual consistency with the HL2 Episode series.

[Radar]

Then I'll get the non-'orange box' version. Great! I'll be picking them up soon now that I know they have things in place to support my computer half-decently.

[leilei]

You can't get that version at all. The way Half-Life 2 is distributed is exclusively through Steam which will always only provide the latest version.

[Radar]

Lol you think that'll stop me? I'm running a stone-age computer like it's an i7. I do what I want. I'll get it from somewhere...

[leilei]

"A man's got to know his limitations" - Harry Callahan

I haven't been "stuck" on DX7 hardware like the GF4MX since 2003. That was 10 years ago and shader model 2.0 was already rolling out to the masses. Hardware was advancing so fast, even being on hardware just one year old was considered as "living under a rock".

and if this is about "haha my pc so old it is the best" then you should give up. Some of us that build retro PCs enjoy it as a guilty pleasure, getting around old finicky game compatibility issues, and for the curiosity of hardware quirks (such as what happens when a Matrox pre-G200 card meets an Unreal engine game).

This does not appear to be one of those situations, and looks more like "haha i'm cool bcuz im living on grandpas handmedown oem PC", and thanks a lot for shitting up the ROTT thread with that. Please consider a new PC so you can play ROTT 2013 and not whine "requires shader model 3 what the fuck does that mean!"*.


* - UnrealEngine3/UDK generally requires a DX9 card w/ SM3 (with UT3 and RoboBlitz being exceptions), though I don't know if ROTT bumped that up to some DX10 path

[MusicallyInspired]

Sometimes I go through nostalgia stints and lower all my graphics settings to the lowest possible settings and even force a maximum fps for the experience. Was interesting getting HL2 to work on my wife's 1Ghz netbook. Its just a fun project sometimes.

[Ronin]

Get a room you guys.

I keep checking this thread to see if there's any single player footage, instead it's just a bunch of people boasting about how shit their computers are.

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Ronan, on 30 May 2013 - 12:42 PM, said:

Get a room you guys.

I keep checking this thread to see if there's any single player footage, instead it's just a bunch of people boasting about how shit their computers are.

This. I was about to write that 20 minutes ago but refrained from it since I was in a bad mood (grumpy after waking up) and then had downvoted every "I am so great coz I have the crappiest PC" post and it's replies.

I'd say, make a dedicated a thread for it where you lot can masturbate over your ultra-low-spec-PCs.



So, back on Topic, Box-Art:
http://www.vg247.com...e-trad-box-art/

[Komenja]

So....

How 'bout that box art?

[Radar]

Darn it guys. My computer just broke and now I need to revert to my old Windows ME with a 900 MHz processor (only other half-decent computer in my house). Given my skillz-that-killz in application optimization, I'm sure I'll be kicking the crap out of Ivy Bridge setups with a few tweaks. Crysis 3 at 60 fps, here I come.

EDIT: Ok ok, I did it because I thought it was funny. I'm done now, and in the meantime I'll go get a new sense of humor.

[Steveeeie]

Komenja, on 30 May 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

So....

How 'bout that box art?

*BOX ART*

Its pretty cool, my only crit would be the characters look a little flat and a bit blury.

[Komenja]

Yeah, I agree. Although the Monk in the background is pretty cool.

[MusicallyInspired]

Recreation of the original box art? It's not bad. A little smooth. Over-airbrushed? Is that a term? I prefer the original artwork but this is great too. Gotta give props for the consistency to authenticity. And sorry for the derailing.

[Jimmy]

Anything with an RSAC Advisory gets an upvote.

[MusicallyInspired]

Remind me what the point was again of the ESRB existing if the RSAC was already in place?

[leilei]

Because there was a favor of age-based categorization of content.

RSAC was just descriptors with levels, and was even more accurate than ESRB with them (Quake had an RSAC for Profanity just for "get to the asshole personally" in the manual), whereas ESRB just mentions "animated blood and gore animated violence" just for every violent thing regardless of anything else, even if it's boobs (*cough*SiN*cough*Sacrifice*cough*Wizardry 8*cough*RTCW*cough*) though the Hot Coffee fiasco made the ESRB think twice for having accurate descriptors and proceeded for RSAC-level accuracy (finally, though since the T-rated gorefest that is Warframe I think they're slipping again.)

RSAC tried to take this idea on the internet with RSACi, though only Internet Explorer 3+ and a few websites supported it.

[DaveyDoomsday]

The best part is that since we're PC only and digital we don't need to be rated by anyone!

PORN AND VIOLENCE FOR ALL!

Ask your parents for permission before playing ROTT 2013.

[Mr.Deviance]

DaveyDoomsday, on 30 May 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

The best part is that since we're PC only and digital we don't need to be rated by anyone!

PORN AND VIOLENCE FOR ALL!

Ask your parents for permission before playing ROTT 2013.

We're all pretty much as old or older than you are on this forum. Yo do know that right?

All the little kids that are giving thumbs down for this post are just making me more happy to realize how many frustrated little kids are around here

[Lunick]

Mr.Deviance, on 30 May 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

We're all pretty much as old or older than you are on this forum. Yo do know that right?

Dave said something on Twitter that he was drunk.

[DustFalcon85]

I would like to see Full Controller Support aka Xbox 360 controller support on ROTT 2013. Will it be included?

[Kristian Joensen]

Controller support is confirmed.