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if and when the next duke game drops, will you care?

BFG9000

#1 Posted 28 December 2011 - 04:39 PM

duke's future seems uncertain (at least to me), with a new owner and with dnf being a bust, just how soon will grbox turn around a give us "their" version of duke? it could be awhile, but then again maybe it's sooner than we think (2-3yrs?, 4-6yrs?). this whole "ride" so-to-speak we've (duke fans) have been on for the past 14 years and ultimately what dnf turned out to be, it's almost like a damn tragedy. 3drealms has to close, people lose jobs, 14 years of so much potential wasted, the massive disappointment for nostalgic fans, and the loss of possibly one of the greatest games that could have ever come out (one of the early 00' builds)... i mean the whole damn thing is just sad.
in 5 years i'll be almost 32. is a new duke game out by then; how much will i even care about gaming at that age? if so, do i want to revist the dukeverse? and who knows, the next duke game may be a massive departure, an abomination.

everyone's different so maybe you see things differently than i do but what do you think? will you care when the next duke game comes out?

Hank

#2 Posted 28 December 2011 - 11:43 PM

BFG9000, on 28 December 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

No. DNF has no mod tools, and never will. Even the best games will die out without it. Thus, Duke's next game is too distant in the future for me to care. Posted Image

necroslut

#3 Posted 29 December 2011 - 04:05 AM

Yes, I will, I really liked DNF. Not sure if I'll like it though, I really hope GBX/Triptych will try to follow in Duke 3D's footsteps and not just make some console-ish license shooter like most "reboots" turn out to be.

And I think you're fooling yourself if you think the early builds were that different.

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MajorTom 2417

#4 Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:26 PM

I'll definitely get it. I've been a fan of Duke since the sidescrollers, so for me NOT to get the next game would be a severe breach of character on my part.

rasmus thorup

#5 Posted 29 December 2011 - 03:16 PM

To me it doesn't really matter how good the game is. As long as it is duke, i will get it.

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Mad Max RW

#6 Posted 29 December 2011 - 07:42 PM

Like all games I'll wait for reviews and see what the general consensus is among real gamers and fans. Then if it isn't completely broken I'll buy on sale. That's worst case scenario (besides skipping entirely, which is pretty rare).

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#7 Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:31 AM

rasmus thorup, on 29 December 2011 - 03:16 PM, said:

To me it doesn't really matter how good the game is. As long as it is duke, i will get it.

And this is what 2K (and maybe GBX) can count on. Release crap ... there are always those who have low standards and buy.

Inspector Lagomorf

Glory To Motherland!

#8 Posted 30 December 2011 - 09:18 AM

I am not buying the next iteration of Duke Nukem, barring some major change in the development or publishing team, e.g. to Valve Software.

This post has been edited by The Mighty Bison: 30 December 2011 - 09:19 AM

Kyphros

#9 Posted 30 December 2011 - 09:27 AM

If it really sucks, i won't buy it but i'll probably play through it anyway because it's Duke.

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#10 Posted 30 December 2011 - 09:40 AM

I'll likely be a lot more skeptical of the next game and probably buy it eventually, second-hand.

Mad Max RW

#11 Posted 30 December 2011 - 10:26 AM

The Mighty Bison, on 30 December 2011 - 09:18 AM, said:

I am not buying the next iteration of Duke Nukem, barring some major change in the development or publishing team, e.g. to Valve Software.

Why Valve, if you don't mind me asking? A lot of people around here seem to love Serious Sam 3 and from the sounds of it Croteam has a better idea of what a Duke Nukem FPS should be. Hell, I'd imagine a spinoff Duke vs. Sam game would sell like hot cakes.

Kathy

#12 Posted 30 December 2011 - 11:38 AM

I've played only SS 1st and 2nd encounters and a demo of SS2, but do you mind explaining in what way Serious Sam is similar to Duke Nukem gameplay-wise?

Inspector Lagomorf

Glory To Motherland!

#13 Posted 30 December 2011 - 11:46 AM

Mad Max RW, on 30 December 2011 - 10:26 AM, said:

From what I have heard about the Serious Sam series and how the gameplay maps out, I disagree with you. Duke Nukem 3D was not intended to be an open-air arena fragfest to the extent that Serious Sam is or was. Duke Nukem 3D currently bears the closest resemblance to FPS'es such as Half-Life 1 or Quake. However, since ID Software is not currently in the business of making very good shooters, I trust Valve to put out a quality product that doesn't fall prey to the much-derided tropes (regenerative health, weapon limit, etc.) seen in modern-day games.

Mad Max RW

#14 Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:04 PM

Helel, on 30 December 2011 - 11:38 AM, said:

I've played only SS 1st and 2nd encounters and a demo of SS2, but do you mind explaining in what way Serious Sam is similar to Duke Nukem gameplay-wise?

I can't because I never played any of the Serious Sam games. Just going by what others on this forum said. Perhaps you should ask them?

Maybe my last post wasn't clear enough.

This post has been edited by Mad Max RW: 30 December 2011 - 01:10 PM

Tea Monster

Polymancer

#15 Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:55 PM

Helel, on 30 December 2011 - 11:38 AM, said:

I've played only SS 1st and 2nd encounters and a demo of SS2, but do you mind explaining in what way Serious Sam is similar to Duke Nukem gameplay-wise?

The 'Hero' is a muscular, wise-cracking smart-ass who single-handedly dispatches hordes and hordes of silly aliens with improbably OTT weaponry.

Duke 3D had complex urban levels and a higher sense of 'adventure' but apart from that, they are very similar.

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#16 Posted 30 December 2011 - 02:55 PM

Eh, they are rather similar in premise, but the gameplay mechanics are substantially different. It's like comparing Quake and Deus Ex. I think Croteam COULD make a decent Duke game if they tried to do legitimate Duke gameplay, rather than an SS rehash. If they did an SS rehash that'd be kinda pointless.

I'd personally like to see Levelord and Charlie Weiderhold working on the next Duke game.

Mikko

Honored Donor

#17 Posted 30 December 2011 - 03:05 PM

Tea Monster, on 30 December 2011 - 01:55 PM, said:

Sam obviously imitates Duke's attitude but that's about it. SS consists of nothing but incredibly boring arena-type fights.

Micky C

Honored Donor

#18 Posted 30 December 2011 - 03:51 PM

I think Serious Sam 3 is closer to Duke 3D than DNF, it even has a jetpack at the end. A Duke FPS not having a jetpack in singleplayer is pretty unforgivable, since even Duke Nukem 2 had a kind of jetpack.

LkMax

#19 Posted 30 December 2011 - 07:02 PM

Micky C, on 30 December 2011 - 03:51 PM, said:

Duke 2 even had flyable space vehicles

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And Duke 1 had grapling hooks, Duke 3D and MP had jetpacks, etc. But Forever's freedom of movement is almost nonexistent.
Damn it, I just remembered the 2001 trailer again... and I'm thinking again about how DNF could have been... >_< Stop it Lk, stop it now. >_>

Hank

#20 Posted 30 December 2011 - 08:57 PM

LkMax, on 30 December 2011 - 07:02 PM, said:

>_< Stop it Lk, stop it now. >_>

Yeah, please stop. This one had a shitload of secrets too. Them days are gone. Posted Image

finished. *sniff* Posted Image

This post has been edited by Hank: 30 December 2011 - 08:58 PM

rasmus thorup

#21 Posted 31 December 2011 - 01:07 PM

fuegerstef, on 30 December 2011 - 01:31 AM, said:

And this is what 2K (and maybe GBX) can count on. Release crap ... there are always those who have low standards and buy.

If the game is duke, then it's good

I respect your opinions you should respect mine too.

This post has been edited by rasmus thorup: 31 December 2011 - 01:08 PM

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Inspector Lagomorf

Glory To Motherland!

#22 Posted 31 December 2011 - 01:19 PM

rasmus thorup, on 31 December 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

If the game is duke, then it's good

I respect your opinions you should respect mine too.

Oh, I respect your opinion. I also have this bridge I would like to sell you...

Jeff

#23 Posted 31 December 2011 - 02:14 PM

Next Duke game must have a developer console.

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#24 Posted 31 December 2011 - 04:25 PM

rasmus thorup, on 31 December 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

If the game is duke, then it's good

I respect your opinions you should respect mine too.

That's the same logic as believing the Bible to be true because it's a book.

rasmus thorup

#25 Posted 31 December 2011 - 04:35 PM

You don't bet on duke? Then why are you here?

Mad Max RW

#26 Posted 31 December 2011 - 05:52 PM

rasmus thorup, on 31 December 2011 - 04:35 PM, said:

You don't bet on duke? Then why are you here?

Because he's also a fan of good games. I love Fallout but I didn't run out and buy that Brotherhood of Steel abomination for the original Xbox. Neither did any other true fans. And you know what happened? The sequel was canceled and we finally got games like Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Don't be a sheep.

This post has been edited by Mad Max RW: 31 December 2011 - 05:53 PM

necroslut

#27 Posted 31 December 2011 - 06:02 PM

I'm playing Serious Sam 3 right now, and as with the previous Sam games I enjoy it, but I really thing DNF beats it in every aspect except for graphics (and the netcode seems much better, but that's not really a gameplay thing). They should not really be compared though, as they're very different kinds of shooters, Serious Sam is much more remiscent of Doom mods where you fight insane numbers of enemies in large open (undetailed) spaces than a game with the depth of Duke 3D.