Rumor: Gearbox rebooting Duke Nukem after finishing Colonial Marines
#31 Posted 24 August 2011 - 12:29 AM
However I do have a theory. This is why Gearbox allowed Duke Nukem Reloaded to go ahead; to test the waters to see what the public's response will be to a true old-school shooter (if it comes out.) If this is true, then we better pray to god that it's successful, because it'll become the basis of all future Duke first person shooters.
#32 Posted 24 August 2011 - 04:35 AM
#33 Posted 24 August 2011 - 05:06 AM
Micky C, on 24 August 2011 - 12:29 AM, said:
It's a shame Duke Nukem Reloaded doesn't sound "old school" at all.
#34 Posted 24 August 2011 - 05:43 AM
Micky C, on 24 August 2011 - 12:29 AM, said:
I don't think that would be the case. Duke Nukem Reloaded is just a mod, probably there wasn't any intent behind it besides being briendly to the modding community.
To say the truth, I don't even see why give importance to Gearbox "allowing it". It's not like they really have power to stop a mod. Especially considering the modding community is made of people from all around the world, how on Earth is it possible to stop a project lead by a group of different people who live in Mexico, Brazil, Japan, Africa and Israel?
I know there do exist some mods which were stopped by the companies who own the games, but I feel like these situations happened because the modders actually choose to close it in fear of a powerless threat, rather than a company having the power to do so.
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#35 Posted 24 August 2011 - 06:07 AM
Fox, on 24 August 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:
To say the truth, I don't even see why give importance to Gearbox "allowing it". It's not like they really have power to stop a mod. Especially considering the modding community is made of people from all around the world, how on Earth is it possible to stop a project lead by a group of different people who live in Mexico, Brazil, Japan, Africa and Israel?
I know there do exist some mods which were stopped by the companies who own the games, but I feel like these situations happened because the modders actually choose to close it in fear of a powerless threat, rather than a company having the power to do so.
It's tricky, but I've seen many of them shut down by lawyers going after their website domains. In the last year at least three Aliens/AvP fan made mods/games for Half Life, Doom 3, and a free engine were booted off moddb. All were being developed by people in Argentina and France.
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#36 Posted 24 August 2011 - 07:34 AM
#37 Posted 24 August 2011 - 07:45 AM
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#38 Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:37 AM
Martin, on 24 August 2011 - 07:45 AM, said:
Do any of you when you post things like this, not understand the concept of suing someone for damages? It can be done, it has happened before. Just because you do it in secret and release it onto the net as virally as possible does not mean the IP holder's legal department wont find your email, get your information, and sue you to kingdom come for damages.
#39 Posted 24 August 2011 - 09:14 AM
Fox, on 24 August 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:
But I'm not holding my breath on that point, one of the artists could get lazy and rip content off from elsewhere. (ie the HRP)
Commando Nukem, on 24 August 2011 - 08:37 AM, said:
There's this thing called being as completely anonymous as possible. But the problem with that it the modder wants feedback to improve things and such.
#40 Posted 24 August 2011 - 09:45 AM
Commando Nukem, on 24 August 2011 - 08:37 AM, said:
If you release it as a torrent and stay anonymous there is nothing they can do. Essentially it's like software piracy, a battle the big publishers are losing. Many mod makers use this tactic.
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#41 Posted 24 August 2011 - 10:08 AM
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#42 Posted 24 August 2011 - 10:34 AM
MusicallyInspired, on 24 August 2011 - 10:08 AM, said:
Could you sue me if you wanted?
It's not that easy. You must know who you are sueing. And realistically IP address is not a trusted way of finding someone. Besides people have the habit of using names of others (i.e. celebrities) in their profiles. And you won't be able to request a court order over a guy in a third world country.
And like it was mentioned before, there are tons of pirated content websites which keep running. And taking down a website hoster is a million of times easier than stopping someone of doing something.
This post has been edited by Fox: 24 August 2011 - 10:43 AM
#43 Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:11 AM
Martin, on 24 August 2011 - 07:45 AM, said:
They would threaten to sue you, but you would pull your website with a polite "Look, we are obeying the law and being good boys!". They would not be able to sue you as you obeyed the C&D order. But, in the meanwhile, the torrent and the files are out in the wild and you got your release and you got your fame before the axe fell. As has been said, once it's out there, that's it.
#44 Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:34 AM
#45 Posted 24 August 2011 - 04:15 PM
Commando Nukem, on 24 August 2011 - 08:37 AM, said:
You don't understand the concept of private websites and private trackers. For example, you can download Hackintosh Snow Leapord and Logic Studios 9.1.3 (with all Jam Packs) from a secret website which you'll never find on Google. Obviously, that's super-illegal stuff (which is why it's very well hidden). As someone else said, I could just make a public site for my mod, release/announce it on the same day in full knowledge that I will receive a C&D. I soon as I receive the C&D, I comply with it. The problem for the entity issuing the C&D to me is that my mod is already out there. I laugh in their face, and there's fuck all they can really do.
#46 Posted 24 August 2011 - 06:38 PM
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#47 Posted 24 August 2011 - 07:19 PM
refluX1k, on 24 August 2011 - 06:38 PM, said:
.. after a pretty long paragraph of all-too familiar Duke 3D/Doom love, and COD/Halo hate. This shows old age and ignorance. Duke 3D and Doom were great back in the day, and are good for a bit of nostalgia now. Try showing someone (regardless of age or demographic) Doom or Duke 3D now. It will look and feel extremely archaic. As for ignorance, why are you people always lumping COD and Halo in with each other? They're about as different as it's possible for two shooters to be. I get it, they're "new". Some of you need to get over yourselves. 1996 was a fucking long time ago. Ancient history as far as videogames are concerned. That doesn't mean you have to like everything that's new, but all this extreme negativity particularly towards new shooters makes me laugh.
#48 Posted 24 August 2011 - 07:37 PM
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#49 Posted 24 August 2011 - 07:47 PM
refluX1k, on 24 August 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm only a year behind you, and sometimes catch myself wearing the rose-tinted specs. You do have to catch yourself, though. If you don't, you end up wearing them all the time and walk around looking and sounding like a total belligerent cunt. Music is the same. It's just sound, who fucking cares what sound waves different people find pleasurable? You like the sound of Brian Johnson's ruined vocal chords caterwauling in your ears, someone else might like the sound of JLS or Beyonce. Again - looking down upon such people just makes you look like a cunt. I personally hate the sound of singers like Johnson and Axl Rose. Such a nasal sound, to my ears.
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#50 Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:04 PM
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#51 Posted 25 August 2011 - 01:47 AM
Mad Max RW, on 24 August 2011 - 05:06 AM, said:
I haven't heard much about it, what where did you hear that?
Fox, on 24 August 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:
To say the truth, I don't even see why give importance to Gearbox "allowing it". It's not like they really have power to stop a mod. Especially considering the modding community is made of people from all around the world, how on Earth is it possible to stop a project lead by a group of different people who live in Mexico, Brazil, Japan, Africa and Israel?
I know there do exist some mods which were stopped by the companies who own the games, but I feel like these situations happened because the modders actually choose to close it in fear of a powerless threat, rather than a company having the power to do so.
It's not 'just a mod'. Gearbox actually forked out money for the license for them to release the game, not to mention they're bothering to monitor any media that comes out. Gearbox are treating DN:R like a product, and have invested time and money into it. Considering what they've done with the console among other things, does anyone honestly believe they're doing all that just to satisfy the fans? Overall, they couldn't care less about us! haha. I still think it's at least partly an experiment to see how people react to more old school gameplay than what's currently out there today.
#52 Posted 25 August 2011 - 05:30 AM
Also, about the suing bit. Most of the time they won't sue you. It's usually not worth the money. However, a C&D is usually enough to scare off tards.
P.S.: Reloaded sounds like shit.
#53 Posted 25 August 2011 - 06:23 AM
Micky C, on 25 August 2011 - 01:47 AM, said:
From this guy
#54 Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:42 PM
Mad Max RW, on 25 August 2011 - 06:23 AM, said:
Anyone else pessimistic about the project due to that guys avatar?
He looks like a backing dancer to an early 90s electro-pop video.
#56 Posted 25 August 2011 - 07:33 PM
You, on 25 August 2011 - 02:42 PM, said:
He looks like a backing dancer to an early 90s electro-pop video.
Look who's talking...
#57 Posted 25 August 2011 - 10:04 PM
Mad Max RW, on 25 August 2011 - 06:23 AM, said:
Ugh. Did you see the shirt and pants he was wearing during his U.S. visit? They nearly broke my gaydar.
#58 Posted 25 August 2011 - 10:35 PM
His personal clothing preferences don't interest me at all, I just hope he does a good job on DN: Reloaded
#59 Posted 25 August 2011 - 11:45 PM
Captain Awesome, on 25 August 2011 - 05:30 AM, said:
O' but why? Is it because he wants a darker and serious Duke Nukem or because he says Reloaded isn't like Duke 3D even though its called DN3D: Reloaded?
#60 Posted 26 August 2011 - 01:50 AM
Descent, on 25 August 2011 - 10:04 PM, said:
Did you come?