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Person of Color

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#1 Posted 30 July 2011 - 03:10 AM

Dude, it makes no fucking sense. The "edgy, hip" company of the 16-bit era gets no love when it comes to apparel. I can get shitty cliche 8-bit mushrooms out the ass but God forbid there are more than two old school Sonic T shirts at any given moment. No "Rise from your grave," no pixellated turkeys from Streets of Rage, just carbon copy Nintendo crap as far as the eye can see. Disgusting.

Seriously, I've wanted a shirt with this on it since 2005:

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At this point I may as well just make my own CafePress account and get a DMCA take down notice for buying my own designs.

There were over 40 million Genesis/Mega Drive units sold worldwide. And you're telling me we can't show our love by being walking capitalist billboards? That's bullshit!

This post has been edited by Descent: 30 July 2011 - 03:11 AM

ThePinkus

#2 Posted 30 July 2011 - 03:52 AM

Are you more mad you don't have shirts with classic Sega art, or that they don't sell them in general?
If its the former, just make your own. Better to have your own style instead of what is widely available.

Hank

#3 Posted 30 July 2011 - 05:17 AM

Descent, on 30 July 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

There were over 40 million Genesis/Mega Drive units sold worldwide. And you're telling me we can't show our love by being walking capitalist billboards? That's bullshit!

I think not. I wear clothing, because the law forbids to go naked. I refuse any clothing with a logo, unless you pay me to wear it.

This post has been edited by Hank: 30 July 2011 - 07:31 AM

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#4 Posted 30 July 2011 - 09:44 AM

Actually, you can blame Sega for this. Nintendo is just raking in cash from hipster douchebags trying to be ironic. Sega doesn't really give a shit about anything anymore and just churns out shit Sonic games.

Tetsuo

#5 Posted 30 July 2011 - 12:52 PM

I have a brown t-shirt with sonic on it that says old school.

Person of Color

Senior Unpaid Intern at Viceland

#6 Posted 30 July 2011 - 01:47 PM

Captain Awesome, on 30 July 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

Don't remind me

. 'Twas a sad day when Dreamcast died. 1/31/01. Never forget.

Even on sites like Zazzle and Cafepress there isn't much to look at.

Tetsuo, on 30 July 2011 - 12:52 PM, said:

I have a brown t-shirt with sonic on it that says old school.

Old school kick ass Sonic or furfag Sonic?

This post has been edited by Descent: 30 July 2011 - 01:56 PM

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#7 Posted 30 July 2011 - 02:26 PM

Tetsuo, on 30 July 2011 - 12:52 PM, said:

I have a brown t-shirt with sonic on it that says old school.

I had a friend who had that shirt.

Descent, on 30 July 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

God forbid there are more than two old school Sonic T shirts at any given moment.

I have two classic Sonic t-shirts myself. One has a Sonic with the pointer finger up, the other is a giant front-on face shot that was given to me right before the 20th anniversary last month. I love them both.

But yeah, I would love more Sega stuff. My cell phone has the classic animating Sega logo as a background, and for a while I had "SEEEEEEEEEE-GAAAAAAAAA!" as my text message ringtone.

Micky C

Honored Donor

#8 Posted 30 July 2011 - 06:24 PM

I absolutely LOVED Sonic Adventure on the dreamcast, and was one of the few games I owned for that console. I still have the game and console but I never use it. Unfortunately Sonic Adventure has developed a glitch where it loses sound, and sometimes it loads some levels indefinitely so they never start, and it freezes during the Super Sonic intro cutscene so I can't play perfect chaos

If anyone happens to be familiar with these problems and how to solve them, don't hesitate to post about it.

This post has been edited by Micky C: 30 July 2011 - 06:25 PM

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#9 Posted 30 July 2011 - 07:00 PM

Micky C, on 30 July 2011 - 06:24 PM, said:

I absolutely LOVED Sonic Adventure

Oh... Sonic Adventure is my favorite game ever, and the first console game I really got into. I've played through the story mode many times. I know it by heart. I own both the Dreamcast and GameCube versions, and I've completed all 130 emblems + 30 Metal Sonic emblems + 60 missions on the latter.

It sounds like either your Dreamcast is developing some all too common problems. First, try running your DC upside down. It's worked for me. If that doesn't work, you need to open up the DC, clean the dust out, and perform a procedure where you clean and bend the pins connecting the mainboard to something else via a large connector so they make complete contact. I've revived two DCs using the latter method and they now exhibit no problems.

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#10 Posted 30 July 2011 - 07:04 PM

Captain Awesome, on 30 July 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

Sega doesn't really give a shit about anything anymore and just churns out shit Sonic games.

Sega isn't really the same Sega any more. They:

transitioned from a hardware developer to a software developer
were bought out by Sammy
lost just about all of their old champions. Yuji Naka for one. Yu Suzuki just quit recently.

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#11 Posted 31 July 2011 - 10:29 AM

That's all too common in the industry now. Capcom, Atari, Nintendo, Konami, etc. It's all different now and everything sucks. It's like LJN is producing every single fucking game now.

I heard Capcom were kicking people out of Comicon that were dressed like Megaman or even mentioned it near their booths. Apparently some dudes even dressed like Tron got kicked out for looking similar.

This post has been edited by Captain Awesome: 31 July 2011 - 10:29 AM

Person of Color

Senior Unpaid Intern at Viceland

#12 Posted 31 July 2011 - 07:05 PM

Hendricks266, on 30 July 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:

But yeah, I would love more Sega stuff. My cell phone has the classic animating Sega logo as a background, and for a while I had "SEEEEEEEEEE-GAAAAAAAAA!" as my text message ringtone.

Hahaha, my friend had the same test message tone for a while. It was obnoxious! So we all made him change it.

Captain Awesome, on 31 July 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

Too bad that was a rumor. If that did happen though, kudos. You wasted 12 hours of your life making that outfit. You know what you can do with 12 hours? Lose your virginity on Craigslist. You can get all that and a bag of crabs for only one hundred "roses."

Who knows, you might even get some pussy juice on that Mega Man outfit!

This post has been edited by Descent: 31 July 2011 - 07:15 PM

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#13 Posted 01 August 2011 - 08:52 AM

Losing your virginity is only a big deal to virginfags. So what if some guy wants to make a little costume? He could be doing so many other nonconstructive things that are actually detrimental to society, like joining a gang and killing random people in initiations.

Person of Color

Senior Unpaid Intern at Viceland

#14 Posted 02 August 2011 - 02:44 AM

See I just don't get the whole costume thing. Honestly though, those places just weird me out, I find them depressing. There's always that 10% of people there who you don't want to be in the same building with. I used to go to MarketPro computer shows to buy parts years ago and I still have nightmares about the fact the entire building smelled like unwashed fat people who like hentai. I can only imagine how bad a comic con would smell.

I was going to go to the Philly comic con but only because Brandon DiCamillo and Raab Himself from CKY/Jackass were gonna be there. I only knew one person who loved CKY enough to drive 4 hours round trip for 30 minutes of human interaction. Sucks he couldn't go in the end. I really wanted to meet Dico.

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#15 Posted 02 August 2011 - 12:07 PM

I think costuming is cool, but I have a vested interest in it: I would like to enter a career in special effects. Of course, yeah, you always run into the worst kinds of nerds and geeks, but it just comes with the territory. What these people lack in hygiene and general common sense sometimes, I commend them for not being detrimental to society, if not only themselves.

Person of Color

Senior Unpaid Intern at Viceland

#16 Posted 02 August 2011 - 01:47 PM

I get what you're saying. Better to be a shut in who's a geek than a shut in who is a heroin addict.

Martin

#17 Posted 02 August 2011 - 03:33 PM

Awesome thread. I love Sega! In fact, the game I consider to be the best game ever made is one from Sega. Shenmue. That name will bring sage nods of approval from some, and belly laughs from others. There is some Sega clothing merchandising you can get, at least in the UK. I have a retro 90s Sonic t-shirt which I bought from Play.com last year. I guess there could be more, but then you could just make your own. Here's my version of your licence screen

Hendricks266, on 30 July 2011 - 07:00 PM, said:

It sounds like either your Dreamcast is developing some all too common problems. First, try running your DC upside down. It's worked for me. If that doesn't work, you need to open up the DC, clean the dust out, and perform a procedure where you clean and bend the pins connecting the mainboard to something else via a large connector so they make complete contact. I've revived two DCs using the latter method and they now exhibit no problems.

That is one known problem. However, his symptoms don't really sound like that. The problem you mention has one basic symptom - the machine will randomly turn off. Another is that the GD-ROM drive may need recalibrating, as his console is exhibiting issues loading/streaming things, I'd say it's more likely to be this. You open the old boy up, and there's a calibration pin on the underside of the disc assembly. Give that sucker a 16th or (at most) an 8th of a turn clockwise. Hey presto, your games load once more.

The Dreamcast's biggest issue is that it is far too small, and the machine gets very hot. The 360 gets a bad rep for that (deservedly-so), but the Dreamcast was just as bad for cooling issues. I guess it never became an important thing, since the console died after two years. Had the Dreamcast been successful and been around for a decent amount of years, I imagine Sega would have found themselves in a similar spot to Microsoft, having to extend customer's warranties and replacing their machines for free.

One thing I noted while nosing around inside my Saturn is that the innards of it and the Dreamcast are very similar purely in the way they're laid out, the difference being that the inside of the Dreamcast is packed tight. One could quite easily gut a Saturn and transplant all the Dreamcast innards over. If done, your new Saturncast would surely run at a lower average temperature, as your DC's guts now have so much more breathing room. I might actually do this at some point. I will need another Saturn, though. I like my Saturn.

While we're talking Sega, who has what Sega hardware? I have;

-Mega Drive PAL, modified with a region switch, 50/60Hz switch, universal cart slot (to accept MD/Gen carts from anywhere) and RGB output.
-Mega CD PAL, unmodified.
-Game Gear PAL, unmodified
-Saturn PAL, unmodified.
-Dreamcast PAL, unmodified.

I regret not having a Master System

This post has been edited by Martin: 02 August 2011 - 03:33 PM

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#18 Posted 02 August 2011 - 04:36 PM

Martin, on 02 August 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Another is that the GD-ROM drive may need recalibrating, as his console is exhibiting issues loading/streaming things, I'd say it's more likely to be this. You open the old boy up, and there's a calibration pin on the underside of the disc assembly. Give that sucker a 16th or (at most) an 8th of a turn clockwise. Hey presto, your games load once more.

Ah, the potentiometer. I've heard that solution for GameCube disc read errors as well.

Let us know how that case mod turns out!

Person of Color

Senior Unpaid Intern at Viceland

#19 Posted 02 August 2011 - 04:57 PM

Master System sucks dick. Seriously, I have no idea why you Europeans love that thing so much. I have a Power Base Converter and a bunch of MS games and I keep it as a conversation piece.

I've been wanting to do the region switch mods to my Genesis for a long time but I haven't had the motivation. The best Genesis games were released stateside. All I want are the Japanese versions of Contra: Hard Corps, Streets of Rage 3, Sonic 1 and Virtua Racing Deluxe. All three are an improvement over their Western counterparts in various ways.

Also, do you collect American Genesis games or the inferior PAL versions? I know you can switch regions on the fly in an emulator, but can you do the same on a console? Those Mega Drive games have a 17% speed reduction to work with the cancer that is known as PAL.

This post has been edited by Descent: 02 August 2011 - 04:59 PM

Martin

#20 Posted 02 August 2011 - 06:50 PM

Hendricks266, on 02 August 2011 - 04:36 PM, said:

Let us know how that case mod turns out!

I will! Of particular note is that they both have the same power layout. Fixing it up so that the Dreamcast guts just sit in the Saturn shell looks so easy. Internal power adaptor makes things easier.

Descent, on 02 August 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Master System sucks dick. Seriously, I have no idea why you Europeans love that thing so much. I have a Power Base Converter and a bunch of MS games and I keep it as a conversation piece.

We liked it because it was the superior alternative to the NES. The games looked better, sounded better, and Sonic was cooler than Mario. Don't know what else to say. We just liked it. Is that a problem?

Descent, on 02 August 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

I've been wanting to do the region switch mods to my Genesis for a long time but I haven't had the motivation. The best Genesis games were released stateside. All I want are the Japanese versions of Contra: Hard Corps, Streets of Rage 3, Sonic 1 and Virtua Racing Deluxe. All three are an improvement over their Western counterparts in various ways.

Bare Knuckle III is a million miles better than Streets of Rage 3. PAL Streets of Rage 2 is better than US Streets of Rage 2, because Blaze shows us her underwear. For some reason only the US version was censored.

Descent, on 02 August 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Also, do you collect American Genesis games or the inferior PAL versions? I know you can switch regions on the fly in an emulator, but can you do the same on a console? Those Mega Drive games have a 17% speed reduction to work with the cancer that is known as PAL.

The majority of my Mega Drive games are PAL ones (different story with my SNES carts). You can switch regions and frequencies on the fly. Also, LOL at your comments towards PAL. It was a superior television standard to NTSC (which film directors jokingly-referred to as 'Never The Same Color' due to it's shitty picture). HIgher resolution, more clarity. Oldschool games suffered on PAL because these games were hardly ever developed in Europe. So an American or Japanese firm would create a game, max it out at NTSC, and then were expected to eek even more out of their engine for higher PAL resolutions.

This was hardly ever done, and so the game ran slower. Rare turned this around on the N64, and begun optimizing games for PAL (earlier examples include the Earthworm Jim games, which are full-speed on PAL consoles). Take it from someone who owns both American and PAL versions of GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie (even have a Jap cart of this one), Banjo-Tooie.. PAL was better. Until the advent of the HD TV standard, PAL was the best television standard in the world. This is why videophiles greatly prefer PAL UK DVDs over American ones. Greater resolution, better colour-reproduction, overall greater clarity.

It's a different story with my SNES and N64 games, but Bare Knuckle III is my one and only Japanese Mega Drive game. As for the PAL ones, one flick of the frequency switch makes them full-screen, full-speed. You can even make PAL Streets of Rage 1 give you the 'Bare Knuckle' title screen when booting up the console with the region switch set to Japan, and the frequency set to 60Hz. My Bare Knuckle III is boxed and complete. Here's some pictures of it. Note the awesome box art and manuals Jap gamers got!

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The modded Mega Drive. Notice the two switches on the left of the unit.

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Close-up of mod switches.

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Said console with Bare Knuckle III cart nestling inside!

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An example of Jap, US, PAL, and a random PAL multicart box.

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A look at the cartridges from the three different regions. PAL and NTSC-U are identical in form factor, whilst Jap carts have a unique shape (and are physically impossible to insert into an unmodified Western MD cartridge slot).

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A look at the three different system logos. I like the Jap one. Very summery and cool. Almost like a Rasta designed it.

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BKIII box front.

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BKIII box back.

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BKIII box spine.

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BKIII box opened.

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BKIII booklet and stuff.

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Some kind of Sega Club card or something.

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Front and back of moves pamphlet.

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Some choice shots from the booklet. Notice art of Ash in that last one (the character that did not appear in other versions).

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Bonus pic of my MD + Mega CD. Awesome lights when it's on!

Stabs

#21 Posted 02 August 2011 - 07:42 PM

shit man, surely you could make a nice vector of that sega jargon at the top and goto a shirt shop and get it done yourself ya know?
or does it need an official sega tag to be cool?

and master system sucking with Wonderboy in Monsterland,i dunno man...