[zwieback]

Once the game is released i want to remake the 2001 trailer as good as possible and replace missing parts with parts that are comparable.
I think a lot of people are actually interested in doing this, so why not team up and do this together - it could be interesting and great fun.

So why is zwieback starting this thread before the game has been released?
It's because i want to use the silence before the storm - everybody interested please watch out for snippets and references to the 2001 trailer and report them here.

[MusicallyInspired]

That's a neat idea. I look forward to see how this turns out.

[DavoX]

I want to be a part of this. The only way to make it exactly the same is to use the same song too...

[MusicallyInspired]

Was the song available without the dialogue and sound effects?

[zwieback]

MusicallyInspired, on 08 June 2011 - 11:19 AM, said:

Was the song available without the dialogue and sound effects?

yes it was - but i can't find the mp3 right now:

[MusicallyInspired]

Maybe it's on Duke4.net

EDIT: Yes, here it is. http://www.duke4.net...oad.php?view.11
Not the best quality though. Better than nothing

[CryptKiller]

Perhaps it's here? Not sure about it, as I don't want to install that dreaded Apple software.

[MusicallyInspired]

I just posted the link.

[Fox Mulder]

CryptKiller, on 08 June 2011 - 12:40 PM, said:

Perhaps it's here? Not sure about it, as I don't want to install that dreaded Apple software.

http://www.davidarke...f_trailer_4.mp3

[LkMax]

For obvious reasons, I'm not in the mood for this.
Good luck though. (You'll have to replace a lot of cut content).

[Fox Mulder]

LkMax, on 08 June 2011 - 02:54 PM, said:

For obvious reasons, I'm not in the mood for this.
Good luck though. (You'll have to replace a lot of cut content).

You may want to take a look at this http://forums.duke4....2001-breakdown/

[zwieback]

yeah saw this one - we will know if the whole project is even possible after we played the singleplayer.
if this is a 99% different game, i for myself won't bother doing this - but if it is similar to the 2001 game, i'm going to invest quite some time in that

[LkMax]

Fox Mulder, on 08 June 2011 - 08:38 PM, said:

You may want to take a look at this http://forums.duke4....2001-breakdown/

Impressive... 49 itens... but only 9 fakes and 29 playable?
So what?

PS: By the way:

Wieder, on 08 June 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

Clarification: The ideas expressed for those sort of things were definitely a part of the DNF "intent" at the time (otherwise the models wouldn't have been built). But the actual implementation shown in the video was done for the video to communicate the intent. Think of it like the trailers for games that use pre-rendered stuff... except we were using the engine itself.

[MusicallyInspired]

Hmmm....seems this was already done...and quite effectively. Check it out.

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

[Kristian Joensen]

While that trailer is awesome, you cannot play it.

[MusicallyInspired]

...what?

[Kristian Joensen]

I am assuming that the purpose of the OP is to create a DNF 2001 trailer based mod for DNF 2011.

[MusicallyInspired]

No. Just to remake the trailer with DNF 2011 tech.

[Kristian Joensen]

Even if that is true, then they would have to remake those sections in DNF, the end result would be you could play them. The OP is definitely talking about re-creating actual 2001 trailer scenes and gameplay.

Edit:

I am specifically talking about this:

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Once the game is released i want to remake the 2001 trailer as good as possible andreplace missing parts with parts that are comparable.

[Parkar]

No he is not. He is talking about trying to find scenes in the full game that is new versions of the same scenes or the most similar he can find and remake the 2001 trailer using the final game. For instance replace the EDF guy sequence with the one from the new game just to name one that is still in the game. Another would be the bug that's different but the general idea is still the same.

I think this should work out pretty good. There should be enough material in the full game to make a pretty close remake of that trailer.

[Splat]

A very nice 2001 trailer remake by "Telee" :

[MusicallyInspired]

I posted that earlier in the thread. It's fantastic.

[SavagE]

the music at arkenstone's site is of the same quality - 128 kb/s. But given the trailer resolution - i'm not surprised. Just listen to the sound effects at the beginning - the sound really bad, like 72 kb/s or something

I wish arkenstone did the whole score!

[Kathy]

Making music for a trailer and scoring the whole game is vastly different, I suspect.

[Altered Reality]

Telee's trailer is "close, but no cigar". If I had the equipment to record high quality video off my PS3 I'd try to remake the 2001 video with the actual DNF myself, but I don't , so all I can do is tell zwieback what scenes can replace what we saw in the 2001 trailer.

The colors mean:
what was present in the 2001 trailer - similar scene, or scene with the same pacing, in the actual game

# 1991-1996-2001 - 1998-2001-2011
# Vegas View - Vegas view from Duke's mansion in Duke Lives, without weapons, noclipping outside the window
# Sandworm - Energy Leech
# Jetskis dropping - Pigcops dropping from alien ship
# Boat & Building - Duke swimming in Lake Mead, from Dam Top
# Gunship & Window - Gunship shooting at you, from Crash Course
# Octabrain & Tunnel - Octabrain, from The Hive
# Cars & Street - Car dropping onto Duke who's riding a crane, from Duke Dome
# Rocket - Activating the reactor, from The Duke Cave
# EZVend - Opening a microwave oven and eating popcorn, from Damn! It's Late
# Tunnels - Driving the forklift, from The Forkstop
# PMN8EZ Car - Driving the Mighty Foot monster truck
# Sniping Vasquez - Sniping any enemy with the railgun
# Incoming plane - Blowing up any alien ship
# EDF with shield - Using the ripper to shoot an assault trooper captain, who teleports away
# Pinball - Pinball, from The Duke Cave or Duke Nukem's Titty City
# More PMN8EZ - Jumping over a precipice with the Mighty Foot
# Lightning Strike - Octabrains outside Hoover Dam, from The Forkstop
# Hoover Dam - Operating the crane with the pipes, from Generator Room
# Donkey Ride - Shooting an enemy with the shotgun, from Ghost Town
# Flashlight Man - EDF guy and dam technicians, from The Shrunk Machine
# Waitress and Guy holding door (all cuts) - Holsom Twins from Duke Lives, intercut with pigcop destroying door from The Clarifier
# Random EDF - EDF guy from the beginning of Crash Course
# General Graves - General Graves, from Generator Room
# Mothership - Mothership, from Mothership Battle
# Graves again - Graves, from Generator Room again
# Save world all by yourself? - Same scene, from Duke Lives
# Motorcycle - Driving the RC car, from The Lady Killer
# Shooting planes - Shooting alien ships with a turret
# Pipebomb - Killing a pigcop with a pipebomb, from Ghost Town
# Tripmine - Killing any enemy with a tripmine, from The Lady Killer or Vegas In Ruins
# Ahhhhh!!!!! - Guy being chopped up by the fat commander, from Duke Dome
# Kicking door - Kicking any door
# Paint splats - Shooting any enemy with the golden gun, in any Hoover Dam level
# Riot Shield and Turret - Evading the shots of a pigcop at a turret, from Highway Battle
# Shrinkage - Shrinking an assault trooper, from Duke Burger
# EDF209 - Battlelord approaching, from Dam Top
# Face Roach - Pregnator attacking your face, from Highway Battle
# Dragon - Pigcops pulling Duke statue with ropes, from Duke Dome
# Minecart - Minecart, from Highway Battle
# Keypad - Keypad, from Duke Nukem's Titty City
# Squishing - Squishing a shrunk enemy, from Duke Burger
# Lady Killer - Alien ship attacking you, from Duke Dome
# Blue Man - Power armor joke, from Vegas in Ruins
# Edge of Destruction - Using a turret, from Highway Battle
# "I live... again!" - Chicks being ripped apart by octababies, from The Hive
# Canons Ahoy - Using a turret while riding an EDF aircraft, from The Mighty Foot
# Bad LOD Jetskis - Using the Devastator on flying assault troopers, from Crash Course
# Satisfying Chomp - Energy Leech sucking up water
# Gus - Random guy from Duke Nukem's Titty City
# When it's done - It's done

[MusicallyInspired]

I would think the gunship and the window would be more accurately represented by the section where you're climbing Duke Burger and you're shooting at that one gunship with a devastator.

[Altered Reality]

MusicallyInspired, on 24 June 2011 - 10:42 AM, said:

I would think the gunship and the window would be more accurately represented by the section where you're climbing Duke Burger and you're shooting at that one gunship with a devastator.

Uhm, you're right. I changed the post accordingly.

[DavoX]

The keypad is even the same one as in 2001.

[Kathy]

Btw, I thought the code would be same. So while playing the game I rewatched 2001 video and recorded the digits Duke was typing. Of course it didn't work.

[Micky C]

The vegas view is identical from the trailer to what you see from Duke's mansion right after you kick the cycloid's eye into the goal. My suggestion is that you disable clipping, go out the window and pan around just like in the trailer.