[DN4EVR]

thall haul, on 03 June 2011 - 04:11 PM, said:

Right now, there are die hard Duke fans who have played the demo, ceaselessly defending the demo as hard as their souls can allow. But, shit. At this point, I know they are crying on the inside. Guys, stop. Stop hurting yourselves. You know the demo sucked. It was barely passing for a 2002 game, it's not going to hold up now. This was supposed to wet our appetite? This is more of a warning, a flare, to just stay the eff away.

Only after you admit Duke broke your heart is when you can start to move on. And, I'm dead-serious, some of the fans here are going to need help moving on. Best of luck.

Trololololol, haters be hating, etc.


Dude, you played a buggy demo.....and you base all your views on the full game on it?

[MYHOUSE.MAP]

Have you actually played Daikatana? It is genuinely an awful game; frustrating level design, weapons that blow and worthless sidekicks. DNF may not be 100% perfect (no game is), but its infinitely better than Daikatana.

[DN4EVR]

MYHOUSE.MAP, on 03 June 2011 - 04:21 PM, said:

Have you actually played Daikatana? It is genuinely an awful game; frustrating level design, weapons that blow and worthless sidekicks. DNF may not be 100% perfect (no game is), but its infinitely better than Daikatana.

This....I played Daikatana, and this looks much better.....even if I did like Daikatana a wee bit for it's cult bad-movie quality.

[Hank]

Here and at Gearbox. What's with the trolls tonight? To the first post, do you really think your post will change one person to buy or not to buy DNF? Don't answer. It''s a statement. Mu English sucks like your avatar, that's all.

[Mikko]

Lol. I'm neither a fanboy nor have I even played the demo but I know this comparison is way off, way, way off.

[DN4EVR]

Mikko_Sandt, on 03 June 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

Lol. I'm neither a fanboy nor have I even played the demo but I know this comparison is way off, way, way off.

Haters be hatin'...it's what they do. I understand someone pointing out a game's flaws and criticizing fairly, but this is outright trolling and disinformation.

[Master Fibbles]

Your avatar is going to blind us. Just so you know.

Also, Diakatana wasn't that bad. Why do people hate on it? I played the demo not so recently and I don't remember it sucking as much as people make it out to be. I mean, sure, it isn't great, but that doesn't make it the standard for crappy games. Grant it, I can't think of a standard for crappy games. This kind of goes with that Uwe Boll thing but I can think of a standard for crappy movies.

That said, they obviously didn't put much effort into the demo and their marketing sucks balls. The game looks decent and I may eventually buy it (when I have money to spend and the price is right). Is it going to revolutionize gaming? No but that is OK. Is it all that people have been building up expectations for over the last 14 years? Of course not. Does that matter? Not really.

In the end, if the game is fun for a few hours of playing, some people will be satisfied.


Also, I kind of hate how people are taking this double standard here. Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion on the game doesn't make them a troll. You don't agree on a single piece of software that will be forgotten in time...who cares?

[Mikko]

I'm sure he's being honest about his opinion. It's even understandable that problems that otherwise would be considered minor tend to grow out of proportions when you've been waiting for the game for so long.

But it should be kept in mind that this demo wasn't even designed for advertisement purposes.

[Mad Max RW]

Mikko_Sandt, on 03 June 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

But it should be kept in mind that this demo wasn't even designed for advertisement purposes.

I'm curious what was it designed for?

[Mikko]

Mr.Flibble, on 03 June 2011 - 04:38 PM, said:

Also, Diakatana wasn't that bad. Why do people hate on it? I played the demo not so recently and I don't remember it sucking as much as people make it out to be

The first level (which is in the demo) actually had some nice visuals. The rest of the game pretty much is a standard for crappy first person shooters.

[Master Fibbles]

Well, since I found the demo, I'll be playing it just to see what you mean. I like having standards...even if they are the bottom end of the standards.

[Mikko]

Mad Max RW, on 03 June 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

I'm curious what was it designed for?

It's a closed demo for the tiny fraction of potential DNF players who paid extra to belong to some stupid club.

[Hank]

Mr.Flibble, on 03 June 2011 - 04:38 PM, said:

Your avatar is going to blind us. Just so you know.

There should be a feature to block annoying avatars I think he/she is another troll from bann land

[ReaperMan]

@thall haul



Thats all I've got to say.

[themaniacboy]

You won't believe, but i've spend six hours on this demo just to find all those damn secrets.
I also found Duke's Penthouse, ran around and played around, very fun.

I think if this game comes out, none of the Duke fans will be dissapointed.

I do agree that this demo was one of the worst ways to market the game, but i bet the final game will be so much better than what i've played ( i've played six hours on a 30 min demo, damnit ).

[DN4EVR]

thall haul, on 03 June 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

Uh, okay, I see I'm just not gonna make any headway here.

But ask yourself : 12 years in development - you don't think they might want to put a little more polish on the demo? Or maybe it's just the game. Like, again, you want to give people a taste to buy it, not to make people consider cancelling the pre-order.

You should stop kidding yourselves, alright? At this point, I know any praise will probably be fan-boy attachment. If you really like it, then hey, fine. But if you don't, if you really really don't? Then don't kid yourself. That's all I'm saying. Just be honest with yourself.

I will be honest if it comes out and sucks...but you're basing crap on a buggy demo and passing such opinions off as if the full game is also this way and you know 100% for sure.

[Mad Max RW]

Mikko_Sandt, on 03 June 2011 - 04:45 PM, said:

It's a closed demo for the tiny fraction of potential DNF players who paid extra to belong to some stupid club.

You're a bit confused there. They used it to entice pre-orders of DNF and Borderlands GOTY purchases. That's called advertising. It's not technically closed because the very same demo is going to be publicly released to everyone who did not pre-order or buy Borderlands. This isn't a beta test. It's a demo with the purpose to help sell the game.

[duke4everman]

Mikko_Sandt, on 03 June 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

Lol. I'm neither a fanboy nor have I even played the demo but I know this comparison is way off, way, way off.

i am a fanboy, though i have to admit there were few problems, but why not. how can a game like that be perfect? although when you say its comparsion is way off, you mean that daikatana was worse or DNF by large scale?

[DN4EVR]

Mad Max RW, on 03 June 2011 - 04:51 PM, said:

You're a bit confused there. They used it to entice pre-orders of DNF and Borderlands GOTY purchases. That's called advertising. It's not technically closed because the very same demo is going to be publicly released to everyone who did not pre-order or buy Borderlands. This isn't a beta test. It's a demo with the purpose to help sell the game.

You don't know if this demo will also be the public demo.

[Jeff]

@ OP

Dude, change your avatar. It almost makes me want to say "obvious troll is obvious".

[Mad Max RW]

DN4EVR, on 03 June 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

You don't know if this demo will also be the public demo.

You're right. I really should stop listening to Randy Pitchford.

[DN4EVR]

Mad Max RW, on 03 June 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

You're right. I really should stop listening to Randy Pitchford.

Um, proof he said this demo will also be the public demo? And didn't you say that Randy Pitchford wasn't to be believed ever today or yesterday sometime?

[Mad Max RW]

DN4EVR, on 03 June 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

Um, proof he said this demo will also be the public demo?

http://www.sidequest...tions-answered/

Good question. We’ll announced that very, very soon. The demo will absolutely come out before the game ships. All of the first access guys, all of them will be the first to get it and we are going to be taking care after those guys.

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And didn't you say that Randy Pitchford wasn't to be believed ever today or yesterday sometime?

It's called being ironic.

[TerminX]

You know, usually I let people post whatever they want here, but I'm not too fond of people signing up just to try and aggravate other users. Bye!