Why GB is left behind?
#1 Posted 18 May 2011 - 03:18 AM
Why, O!, Why George Broussard is not involved in promotion of DNF?
He doesn't even show him self in "Duke Nukem History of a Legend" or any other interviews. WTF?
#2 Posted 18 May 2011 - 03:21 AM
And welcome to the forums
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#3 Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:25 AM
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#4 Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:52 AM
If I where in his shoes I would take a break too. What are you gonna say, 'We were almost done but … ?' You either blame everyone else or yourself, in public? How many times? Nah. Thanks, but no thanks.
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#6 Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:21 AM
Wether we want to admit it or not, 90% of the game's been made with him as a supervisor.
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#7 Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:29 AM
#8 Posted 18 May 2011 - 01:15 PM
Xenobot, on 18 May 2011 - 03:18 AM, said:
Why, O!, Why George Broussard is not involved in promotion of DNF?
He doesn't even show him self in "Duke Nukem History of a Legend" or any other interviews. WTF?
Because everybody curses him for DNF being delayed all of these years.
#9 Posted 18 May 2011 - 01:17 PM
Mr.Deviance, on 18 May 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:
People are kind huh? And wtf is it with your avatars? Looks like some sort of retarded jungle dude.
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#11 Posted 18 May 2011 - 02:28 PM
#12 Posted 18 May 2011 - 02:34 PM
Splat, on 18 May 2011 - 01:22 PM, said:
Including all the engine changes and stalling the release?
#13 Posted 18 May 2011 - 02:35 PM
Jhect, on 18 May 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:
The fact that you don't know an OMF 2097 character, proves that you are a noob kid or a nongamer.
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#14 Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:37 PM
Mr.Deviance, on 18 May 2011 - 02:35 PM, said:
(if you look further down you will see OMF2097 as well)
MrBlackCat
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#15 Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:37 PM
Jhect, on 18 May 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:
Mr.Deviance, on 18 May 2011 - 02:35 PM, said:
MrBlackCat, on 18 May 2011 - 04:37 PM, said:
Every time you change it Deviance we get like fifty people asking what the hell it is!
back on topic: I literally cannot WAIT for the game to come out so I can send George a thank you note. He's the first person in the gaming industry that I ever made contact with and got me thinking about how games are made by 'people' and not just giant corporate machines. It's really going to be an awesome day
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#16 Posted 19 May 2011 - 11:28 AM
Mr.Deviance, on 18 May 2011 - 02:35 PM, said:
Explain to me what a noob kid is in real life xD
And it seems that you are the one who plays weirdo games
#17 Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:44 PM
Jhect, on 19 May 2011 - 11:28 AM, said:
And it seems that you are the one who plays weirdo games
They were not weirdo games when they came out. That would explain to you what a noob kid is. A young person who is labeling as weird something that is not from his times.
#18 Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:56 PM
Luther Blissett, on 19 May 2011 - 12:44 PM, said:
Thanks for telling him for me. I hesitated to tell him myself because I am under the impression that he is attempting to troll.
#19 Posted 19 May 2011 - 01:55 PM
Jhect, on 19 May 2011 - 11:28 AM, said:
And it seems that you are the one who plays weirdo games
On Topic:
I wonder if George goes into the office each day?
Don't get me wrong, part of me wants to kick him in the balls, but that part is mostly inner child because I really don't know the whole story.
I don't think any of us hasn't had some crap in our lives turn into a giant snowball rolling down hill... GB's snowball turned in an avalanche and a big difference is that we all know about his "mistakes".
But I don't take it personal.
I do ask myself often however... I wonder if he learned from those mistakes? I compare this to the mistakes of John Romero. I like a lot of what I know of John R and George B, but their egos can't be denied as big... which can complicate things a bit. It gets into the whole balance of Confidence vs Arrogance... complicated is what I mean. So complicated I would not pass judgement without a disclaimer pointing out the opinion is based on a very outside view. I don't consider my views have enough evidence to demonize either of them.
I have never met George B, or John R but if I ever did, I would only congratulate them for what I do know they did right, play major roles in creating some of the most inspiring games I have ever played. But I would not bash on them about "their failures" because I don't know first hand what produced the end results we all so easily say "they did wrong".
MrBlackCat
#20 Posted 19 May 2011 - 02:46 PM
#21 Posted 20 May 2011 - 01:52 AM
MrBlackCat, on 19 May 2011 - 01:55 PM, said:
You do know first hand what produced the end results on which basis we all so easily say "they did right"?
#22 Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:51 AM
X-Vector, on 20 May 2011 - 01:52 AM, said:
We reasonably know that he made Duke Nukem 3D and much of Duke Nukem Forever is all I mean.
I give MORE benefit of doubt before I attack someone is my point.
In a physical attack, I don't pound someone because I THINK they are going to attack me. When it is my direct observation (like a swing) then I am sure, and I will defend myself. So in a situation like this with George B, I only think he screwed up... but there is very easily a lot more to it than that. So I choose not to attack him.
I am more comfortable with positive incorrect assumptions than negative incorrect assumptions... many of the attacks seem no different than witch burnings to me.
MrBlackCat
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#23 Posted 20 May 2011 - 06:03 AM
Mr.Deviance, on 19 May 2011 - 12:56 PM, said:
Woow mr.deviance, how come you are in red ?
A few days ago you were in 30+ i believe.
Also, GB isn't involved in it anymore since 2k games sued 3DRealms.
After that, he was only checking on his game how it is going.
It is a part of his life, you know.
#24 Posted 20 May 2011 - 07:56 AM
themaniacboy, on 20 May 2011 - 06:03 AM, said:
A few days ago you were in 30+ i believe.
I pissed off TX and I got raped...
Don't worry, I had it coming though.
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#25 Posted 20 May 2011 - 07:59 AM
Mr.Deviance, on 20 May 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:
Don't worry, I had it coming though.
May i ask why ?
Did you by any chance, call him a monkey ?
#26 Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:00 AM
themaniacboy, on 20 May 2011 - 07:59 AM, said:
Did you by any chance, call him a monkey ?
Move to pm if you want to know, let's not derail this.
#27 Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:10 AM
MrBlackCat, on 19 May 2011 - 01:55 PM, said:
I do ask myself often however... I wonder if he learned from those mistakes? I compare this to the mistakes of John Romero. I like a lot of what I know of John R and George B, but their egos can't be denied as big... which can complicate things a bit. It gets into the whole balance of Confidence vs Arrogance... complicated is what I mean. So complicated I would not pass judgement without a disclaimer pointing out the opinion is based on a very outside view. I don't consider my views have enough evidence to demonize either of them.
I have never met George B, or John R but if I ever did, I would only congratulate them for what I do know they did right, play major roles in creating some of the most inspiring games I have ever played. But I would not bash on them about "their failures" because I don't know first hand what produced the end results we all so easily say "they did wrong".
MrBlackCat
I've read Masters of Doom at least five times, as well as numerous old articles from when he was in his prime, and I posted on his message board for years.
There is something majorly wrong with Romero. I don't know what it is but I really think he has borderline personality disorder.
I don't think GB has a giant ego. He's just a really shitty project manager. I personally wouldn't compare the two.
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#28 Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:24 AM
#29 Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:31 AM
Descent, on 20 May 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:
There is something majorly wrong with Romero. I don't know what it is but I really think he has borderline personality disorder.
I don't think GB has a giant ego. He's just a really shitty project manager. I personally wouldn't compare the two.
I too have read the book and read plenty of Romero's blog posts, forum posts, tweets etc. I think he's just passionate about what he does.
#30 Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:49 AM
Splat, on 20 May 2011 - 11:24 AM, said:
Invite him!
They would ban him at Gearbox because he knows to much for their taste, and the forum is heavily censored, but here, he can be himself!