[bensen]

Helo,

I tried to play Duke Nukem 3D HRP but my CPU usage is to high with 88-92%. The game stops for a few milisecounds every move i do. What can I do?


My system informations can be helpful to find a solution

AMD Athlon X2 6000+
5GB DDR2 RAM
Hitachi 500GB SATA
NVidia GeForce 9500GT
Realtek Audio Codec
AsRock ALiveNF6G-GLAN
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

[Wolf]

This happened to me because I was running eduke32 in compatibility mode so it wouldn't disable desktop composition each time I ran it.. you aren't doing that, are you? I'm also using Win7 x64.

[LeoD]

bensen, on Mar 24 2011, 11:10 PM, said:

I tried to play Duke Nukem 3D HRP but my CPU usage is to high with 88-92%. The game stops for a few milisecounds every move i do. What can I do?

- Upgrade your graphics card because yours is most likely too weak to play Polymer HRP in its full glory
or
- Reduce the Polymer quality settings
or
- Try the Polymost renderer (and use the PolyMOST HRP if that fits for you)

- Ask for help in the Random questions, bug reports, "help me" threads and other unexciting things subforum
- Post your logfile (as attachment!)

[Master Fibbles]

Are your drivers up to date? There is more information that you can give but I'm not sure how they want you to get that. Something about a console command or running in debug mode.

[Danukem]

There are things you can do that should help, as people have noted. But it's a well-known fact that that Polymer with the HRP runs poorly and is in dire need of optimization.

[bensen]

Okay I'll try the Polymost render. half year ago the game run perfectly. Very strange that the game now runs with speed problems....

[LeoD]

bensen, on Mar 27 2011, 11:21 PM, said:

Okay I'll try the Polymost render. half year ago the game run perfectly. Very strange that the game now runs with speed problems....

Not that strange. More and more textures get polymerized which (I think) will need more and more GPU(+CPU?) power. Especially the light sources in the maphacks for the original maps add to that IMO. Since the start of Polymer HRP I've had regular performance decreases after updating the from the SVN repository, although some Eduke32 improvements have pushed that back up from time to time. In the meantime I have both HRPs installed in parallel and switch over if the framerate of a certain map sucks.

[keropi]

I am also getting crap speed of ~30fps with the latest HRP ...
My pc is a Q9300 @3.00ghz , 8GB RAM, GeForce560ti oc edition 1GB, x-fi elite soundcard and running win7/x64 ...
I will try lowering the polymer settings to see if this can help...

edit: where do I find the polymer renderer settings?

[The Commander]

keropi, on 08 May 2011 - 10:20 AM, said:

edit: where do I find the polymer renderer settings?

They are changed in the console.

http://wiki.eduke32....onsole_commands - Look for the section on "polymer.c"

EDIT: Or you can type r_pr in the console followed by the TAB key to list them.

[keropi]

I see... any tips on what to change? I have no idea...
and on the matter, what is a pc config that runs the polymer renderer fine? my setup struggles...

thanks for any info!

[TerminX]

keropi, on 08 May 2011 - 10:20 AM, said:

I am also getting crap speed of ~30fps with the latest HRP ...
My pc is a Q9300 @3.00ghz , 8GB RAM, GeForce560ti oc edition 1GB, x-fi elite soundcard and running win7/x64 ...
I will try lowering the polymer settings to see if this can help...

edit: where do I find the polymer renderer settings?

Are you forcing FSAA in the NVIDIA control panel or something? You should be getting a way better framerate with that configuration, at least in the original game maps.

[keropi]

nope, I hate anti-aliasing and never use it... the game is running 101% without any FSAA ... I also tried disabling desktop composition and I saw no difference at all.
I am getting ~30fps in the 1st map of the game, and I run it in 1680X1050@32bit... is there any log/info I can provide you so you can check things TX ?
(nvidia driver, x-fi and windows are fully updated... no AV running in the background)

here are some shots...





I get ~30fps, vsync is OFF and the texture detail is in the middle... the screenshot might look a little blurry, it is because I converted it to .jpg ...


edit: I checked nv control panel, for some reason the option "use the advanced 3d settings" was checked , so I reverted to "let application control settings" ... I saw a boost in fps , the above shot gets now ~40-43 fps, in some places I almost get 60 in others ~30 , if I enable VSYNC I get 30 and lower...
for now I have detailed textures in the lowest setting and framerate varies, from 26 to 60 with VSYNC... when the game loads textures in the memory (I guess) there are pauses so terrible that sometimes you turn 180 degress without knowing it and you go back the way you came LOL (this happens 90% in the beginning of the levels...)
also I tested without the polymer renderer... I get 350 to 890fps...!
Also I downloaded the latest 20110508-1878 eduke build (was using 20110502-1876), I saw some performance improvement. What I don't like is vsync that if it cannot achieve 60fps it drops to 30 even though you can have 50... I understand it is 30 because it is "half vsync" but droping from 60 to 30 gives the impression of jerky motion...

[NightFright]

Polymer textures and skins usually consist of 3 different layers (diffuse, normal and spec) - not counting glowmaps. This will of course lead to dramatically increased system requirements. Unfortunately, you cannot just deactivate Polymer in HRP5 and expect everything just keeps running fine simply without enhanced effects. Maybe LeoD can provide you guys with a special HRP for Polymost which brings at least some of the new additions also to people with slow rigs.

[themaniacboy]

Well, Nightfright.

I do not think that only people with slow rigs get slow performance.
I for one, have a decent pc but i have a disadvantage because i have a ATI card.

I can't enjoy polymer because it isn't designed for ATI.

[TerminX]

You can't enjoy Polymer because ATI's drivers don't do OpenGL worth a shit, unfortunately.

[keropi]

a bit of offtopic: in Quake's DarkPlaces engine which is openGL too, it is the opposite, ATI cards work better... it could use other features though , I don't know