[Fox]

Yatta is the only one which reputation I admire.

[Jimmy]

[Forge]

wouldn't 486 be more of a milestone?

i wanted mine froze at 42 since yatta stole my negative one thousand idea

[Person of Color]

Fox, on 03 June 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

It seems you actually can buy a pet fox breed. It costs $6,000, but it's not like a Maine Coon is cheap.

Yeah those things are illegal in NY though . Trust me, I've checked, there are very few things in the world I want more than one of those domesticated Russian foxes.

[Micky C]

Mikko_Sandt, on 03 June 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

Strange to see the place you grew up in (Pori) from above.

Never heard of Google Maps eh?

[X-Vector]

The trolls rose from the ashes of the flame war.

[Master Fibbles]

Hank, on 03 June 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Explain this one, are you referring to the one idiot or the sect?

I have a hard time taking JWs seriously. I try to be open to other religions but they are kind of annoying. They don't engage in dialog with other people, they preach at people. I have had some experiences with them at the door and they weren't interested in what I believed or all the reasons why I would never convert, they just wanted to tell me all the reasons why I'm wrong and should join them.

That said, this particular YouTube commenter is getting annoying. I don't have time to sit and read his comments and answer all of them. I may take some time later this week (maybe the weekend) to make a new video without any simplifications but full on scholarly. I may not because I'm lazy and I have enough things to do besides.

But, really, all he is doing is applying the door to door method of annoyance to the Internet.

JWs are nice enough people....but when they are evangelizing, they aren't anything short of annoying. They won't/can't take any materials from you, they only read the Watchtower and the particular translation of the group (and insist it is the BEST translation*). They also don't stop coming unless you basically tell them to stop.


*It was funny. They guy on YouTube told me I should use a more careful translation and I said "I don't use translations, you should try learning Greek" Felt good.

[Hank]

Mr.Flibble, on 04 June 2013 - 03:04 AM, said:

*It was funny. They guy on YouTube told me I should use a more careful translation and I said "I don't use translations, you should try learning Greek" Felt good.

Good man! He prolly did not even get it, most JWs are, well, blind followers and memorize what ever the Watchtower Society writes, sad really, but then again, if you are happy with it

[Forge]

486DX2, on 03 June 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

Yeah those things are illegal in NY though . Trust me, I've checked, there are very few things in the world I want more than one of those domesticated Russian foxes.

would you settle for a fennec fox? those are legal in ny

http://animals.natio...als/fennec-fox/

http://law.onecle.co...03_11-0103.html

sec 5e sub para 3

e. "Wild animal" shall not include "companion animal" as defined in
section three hundred fifty of the agriculture and markets law. Wild
animal includes, and is limited to, any or all of the following orders
and families:
(3) Canidae (with the exception of domesticated dogs and captive bred
fennec foxes (vulpes zerda)

[LkMax]

Fuck Eidos Montreal and their shitty teasing. I'll never get hyped again for those fuckers. And I thought I've learned my lesson about hypes...
/vent

[Kathy]

What are they teasing?

[X-Vector]

Deus Ex: The Fall.

[High Treason]

Went to the ice arena for the first time in almst two years today;



(Changes to third person about halfway through)

[ReaperMan]

Thats a nice looking rink, where is that at?

[Lunick]

LkMax, on 05 June 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

Fuck Eidos Montreal and their shitty teasing. I'll never get hyped again for those fuckers. And I thought I've learned my lesson about hypes...
/vent

Psh, these last few days have been pretty disappointing:
-Plants vs. Zombies 2 for iOS only and is F2P with In-App Purchases
-Halo: Spartan Assault for Windows 8 only (and Windows phone I think)
-Deus Ex: The Fall for mobiles/tablets

What else can go wrong?

[Master Fibbles]

Hank, on 04 June 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Good man! He prolly did not even get it, most JWs are, well, blind followers and memorize what ever the Watchtower Society writes, sad really, but then again, if you are happy with it

That didn't get rid of him though. It might be too early to call it, but I think I managed to anger him when I used the example of calling someone named Ivan John as being the same as calling Yahweh Jehovah. He said that Ivan and John aren't the same, but I corrected him (Ivan, Evan, Owen, Sean, Hans, Joan, Yvonne, etc). No responses since this morning.

[Hank]

Mr.Flibble, on 05 June 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

That didn't get rid of him though. It might be too early to call it, but I think I managed to anger him when I used the example of calling someone named Ivan John as being the same as calling Yahweh Jehovah. He said that Ivan and John aren't the same, but I corrected him (Ivan, Evan, Owen, Sean, Hans, Joan, Yvonne, etc). No responses since this morning.

Oh boy, one basic believe of the Jehovah's Witnesses is that Jehovah is the correct name for god.
So if he can't even defend that with a solid argument (it would be flawed), he does not even know his own faith?

Bottom line, have fun

[Lunick]

[Kathy]

Hank, on 05 June 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

So if he can't even defend that with a solid argument (it would be flawed), he does not even know his own faith?

Many other christians also don't know shit about their religion. Although if he's preaching he should know.

[LkMax]

Cathy, on 05 June 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

What are they teasing?

There was speculation all over the internet (well, more or less) about a new Deus Ex game called "The Fall" (presumably for PC and consoles). Eidos was teasing on twitter with short hints and yesterday (2013/06/04) they released a teaser informing that the next day (2013/06/05) they would show their new game Deus Ex: The Fall. What it turned out to be? a dumbed-down stand-alone expansion exclusive to IOS... seriously, all this tease for that...

Lunick, on 05 June 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

What else can go wrong?

Shadow Warrior turns out to be a re-skinned Painkiller exclusive to IOS and Rise of The Triad is bought by Gearbox, re-done from scratch and outsourced to 30 different studios.

edit: grammar.

[Lunick]

LkMax, on 05 June 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

There was speculation all over the internet (well, more or less) about a new Deus Ex game called "The Fall" (presumably for PC and consoles). Eidos was teasing on twitter with short hints and yesterday (2013/06/04) they released a teaser informing that the next day (2013/06/05) they would show their new game Deus Ex: The Fall. What it turned out to be? a dumbed-down stand-alone expansion exclusive to IOS... seriously, all this tease for that...

People also think that the game will be done in an episodic format which is why the price is only $7

LkMax, on 05 June 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

Shadow Warrior turns out to be a re-skinned Painkiller exclusive to IOS and Rise of The Triad is bought by Gearbox, re-done from scratch and outsourced to 30 different studios.

Hah, we have already got the platform details about Shadow Warrior though I also don;t think Interceptor would go anywhere near Gearbox again after "things".

Maybe a new game by id Software will come out but it will me Mac only

[Master Fibbles]

Hank, on 05 June 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

Oh boy, one basic believe of the Jehovah's Witnesses is that Jehovah is the correct name for god.So if he can't even defend that with a solid argument (it would be flawed), he does not even know his own faith?Bottom line, have fun

I spoke too soon, but I think I'm tired of his wasted arguments. It is actually not possible to really defend the use of the name "Jehovah" since even arguing the use of modern version of names (Jesus rather than Yoshua) you can't get Jehovah from Yahweh; The name Jehovah is from the 11th century. I tried explaining this but like most JWs he is unmoved and wants to convince me that he is right without listening to my arguments or thinking. That is the problem...JWs don't think, they let The Watchtower think for them.

Cathy, on 05 June 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

Many other christians also don't know shit about their religion. Although if he's preaching he should know.

Actually, Jehovah's Witnesses preach no matter what. They "know" their beliefs to the extent that they know the same tired arguments they heard growing up. Their door-to-door preaching doesn't actually convert anyone, it is just meant to brainwash strengthen the faith of the ones evangelizing.


I think I'm going to have to settle for a final statement of scorn and scoff. If he replies I'm ignoring it because I don't have time to put up with this.

[Hank]

Mr.Flibble, on 06 June 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:

I spoke too soon, but I think I'm tired of his wasted arguments. It is actually not possible to really defend the use of the name "Jehovah" since even arguing the use of modern version of names (Jesus rather than Yoshua) you can't get Jehovah from Yahweh; The name Jehovah is from the 11th century. I tried explaining this but like most JWs he is unmoved and wants to convince me that he is right without listening to my arguments or thinking. That is the problem...JWs don't think, they let The Watchtower think for them.


Actually, Jehovah's Witnesses preach no matter what. They "know" their beliefs to the extent that they know the same tired arguments they heard growing up. Their door-to-door preaching doesn't actually convert anyone, it is just meant to brainwash strengthen the faith of the ones evangelizing.


I think I'm going to have to settle for a final statement of scorn and scoff. If he replies I'm ignoring it because I don't have time to put up with this.

I have no idea if it is possible to actually defend the name; I did this since age 6, you simply refer to the Hebrew יְהֹוָה and say this was spoken as Jehovah a long time ago. Most buy it, because as Cathy wrote, most know little about their faith.

@ Cathy - a Jehovah Witness, has at least three different study lectures per week to attend to, for life, it's unlike any other faith I now of. For example, before you are permitted to get baptised you need to be able to answer a set of questions to satisfy the elders, otherwise you need to study more before they'll even let you become a JW. If you are good at public speaking, you need to study even more ....

[Kathy]

Hank, on 06 June 2013 - 03:47 AM, said:

For example, before you are permitted to get baptised you need to be able to answer a set of questions to satisfy the elders, otherwise you need to study more before they'll even let you become a JW.

That's not such a bad idea actually.

[Jeff]

First time out to the golf course this year. I went to the driving range to hit some golf balls. Started off kind of rough, but by the end of the first bucket I was hitting between 160-180 yards with a driver. Keep in mind, this is with a pair of rental clubs. I do not have a set of clubs, but I was looking at getting some. Although I'm sure if I did have my own set, I could definitely hit the ball further. As most custom clubs usually have a giant sweet spot, so it's hard not to hit the ball at least 200 yards. They are also made of a different material, which tends to hit the ball further. Some clubs even have lighter shafts (graphite as opposed to steel) and more flex for better distance as well. Can't really get that with rental clubs.

The irons weren't too bad. I had one 7 iron, and I managed to hit that between 120-140 yards (good distance for that type of club). Very straight shots with lots of loft.

Overall, a good day at the range. Most importantly, I had a lot of fun.

[Master Fibbles]

Hank, on 06 June 2013 - 03:47 AM, said:

I have no idea if it is possible to actually defend the name; I did this since age 6, you simply refer to the Hebrew יְהֹוָה and say this was spoken as Jehovah a long time ago. Most buy it, because as Cathy wrote, most know little about their faith.

Spoiler

I should make a more scholarly version of this video but that is not the point of these little videos.

It is not possible.


Adult converts to Catholicism go through a process of education, but children raised in most Christian faiths receive little proper education in religion outside of the home. There are youth education programs and summer bible camps but these are optional (at least after grade school). It is unfortunate; there should be more proper education in faith and sermons should be more than Happy-Cappy Christianity or Fire and Brimstone Apocalypticism.

[Radar]

How about these so-called Christians simply pick-up a Bible and read it? Bible camps or education programs are great for the active Christian, but someone's primary source of faith education should be from actually reading their own book during their personal time. That way, they're learning what the Bible says for itself, not what some nutcase or insane religious sect interprets it to say.

[Master Fibbles]

Yes, bible study would be great. But, I know from experience that a person picking up a bible and reading it does not always end well. There are a lot of ways to understand certain stories and passages. Look at the Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church), all they do is pick up the bible and read it; they are bat shit insane and you'd be hard pressed to find many Christians who agree with them. Just picking up the bible and reading is not formal training in faith and is, honestly, dangerous. I actually discourage reading the bible cover to cover (AND I HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE IN BIBLE!). I know people who have done it and most of them have turned out alright. However, there are better ways to go through the bible for religious study or meditation than just reading from Genesis to Revelation.

Lot's of Christians read the bible for personal study and meditation; but I'm talking about formal religious education - education in doctrine and history as well as bible. There is a Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults which involves formal education in doctrine and some other theology. However, that is only for adults converting. Adult converts tend to be far better equipped for evangelization and apologetics than those who were raised in a faith without any formal education in the area of theology. Religious primary schools try and sometimes do succeed in actually instilling not only knowledge but also a desire to learn more about the topic (filling a bucket vs lighting a fire). Religious high schools and colleges have slightly better luck but they also don't have a good track record with retention.

For everything I have against Jehovah's Witnesses, I'll give them that they have retention. They have few conversions, but they have retention. Mormons also have few conversions and pretty good retention, but I have more respect for them since they are open to dialogue and other ideas (You can give a Mormon who knocks on your door a book written by anyone; you can't give a JW anything because they can only read Watchtower).

[Kathy]

I always wanted to ask. Is "Old Testament" the same book for Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

[Forge]

they're close in correspondence, but not exactly the same.

Flib could probably tell you the exact differences between old testament, Qur'an, and Tanakh (Masoretic Text)

stuff like in the Qur'an Adam is know as the First Prophet