[Master Fibbles]

You know...there is an option "Forgot my password" here...you could have avoided posting as another account all together if you had used that option to have a reset password email sent to you.

This episode of the Simpsons pretty much sums up the problem with American politics.
By the way, that was the best Tree House of Horror...well, not really, but it fits with my point.

[Jimmy]

It's because they don't care about us. They are in control. We only have an illusion of choice, the idea of control. What we think does not matter to them. You ever wonder why even when political parties change the same shit the last party wanted to get done gets done by the next? It's because they're all paid off and put in place by the same people who've been in control for years. They're puppets and we're their pawns.

[OpenMaw]

Captain Awesome, on Oct 23 2010, 10:55 AM, said:

Nice Carlin reference.

You win the honorary bowl of Ramen Noodles.

Here's what I was referring to for those of you who dont know:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=gPOfurmrjxo

[Master Fibbles]

Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around...

I am pretty sure Carlin was secretly conservative and at least a little spiritual/believing in God or some such thing. Some of his comedy about religion is cynical/sarcastic but he makes good observations about falsely religious people. He also seems to either have a false idea of (specifically) Catholicism or he points out the hypocrisy of a lot of Christian preachers.

[Kathy]

Captain Awesome, on Oct 23 2010, 09:55 PM, said:

And, I'm gonna agree, Flibble is one of the smartest Christians I have met.

He's a christian?

[Master Fibbles]

Sure... Of course, if you ask some people they'll say I'm not "Christian" because I'm not "saved" or whatever. If you ask me, I'll tell you that a good number of the people who are "saved" are probably going to be surprised when they die (upon seeing people who weren't "saved" playing poker and drinking some beer with Jesus)

[Kathy]

But why, Flibble? Okay, there is no why. I just can't even IMAGINE how the hell people believe that god from "their" religion is the only true one. What about other religions/gods? Are they all wrong and are those people wrong just because some religion was the first to be dominant in their country/location? I can somehow imagine of there being some kind of maker or makers or whatever, but believing that we're special and the maker cares about us? And only one religion got it right? That's too much conditions. Either there is no one or there is maker of the universe and that's it. Everything else is grasping it. That's the most possible explanation my stupid mind can think of.

I disassembled ps3 today. Wasn't as hard as I though it would be.

[Master Fibbles]

Technically, as far as my understanding, Catholics should believe that NO ONE has it right...just the Catholic Church has it less wrong than everyone else (to use the "negative" language). Evangelical Christians, those who are "saved", think that everyone is wrong but them.

I once got in an argument with a bunch of Christians over whether or not Allah is the same God as the Judeo-Christian God...I was out numbered and the confrontation was part of the last draw for me with meeting with that group. I left the meeting rather upset about the whole thing since it makes no sense to say that one monotheistic religion believes in a different god than another monotheistic religion.

[Jimmy]

Especially since it's pretty much common knowledge that the big three Middle Eastern religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) build on top of one another.

[Master Fibbles]

They are called Abrahamic Faiths for a reason...they all worship the God of Abraham. It takes a special kind of ignorant person to claim that Islam worships a different god than Christianity.

[ReaperMan]

Lotan, on Oct 23 2010, 08:08 PM, said:

I just can't even IMAGINE how the hell people believe that god from "their" religion is the only true one. What about other religions/gods? Are they all wrong and are those people wrong just because some religion was the first to be dominant in their country/location?

Those people are extremest, most people who i know who are religious are far more open minded then that. Like Mr. Flibble said most pick the religion that they believe to be closer to the truth, and don't believe "their" religion is the only true one.

I can see why you said that though as the extremest get more publicity in media.

[Kathy]

Mr.Flibble, on Oct 24 2010, 05:03 AM, said:

I left the meeting rather upset about the whole thing since it makes no sense to say that one monotheistic religion believes in a different god than another monotheistic religion.

Any monotheistic religion? I'm sure there could be different gods for monotheistic religions.

Anyway, about the whole Allah thing. Aren't they somehow right? Christian god is a trinity, Islamic is not. While Jehova is the same, Jesus is not a god. Thus, Islamic god is different that Christian.

ReaperMan, on Oct 24 2010, 11:55 AM, said:

Those people are extremest, most people who i know who are religious are far more open minded then that. Like Mr. Flibble said most pick the religion that they believe to be closer to the truth, and don't believe "their" religion is the only true one.

I can see why you said that though as the extremest get more publicity in media.

How is that extremist? One religion contradicts another. Why the hell follow the religion if you think other religions aren't wrong? That would contradict your fate.

[ReaperMan]

Lotan, on Oct 24 2010, 05:39 AM, said:

How is that extremist? One religion contradicts another. Why the hell follow the religion if you think other religions aren't wrong? That would contradict your fate.

Christianity builds on Judaism, they don't really contradict each other. Neither do the religions that branch off of Islam.

I think people follow religion for multiple reasons; to fit in, be a part of a group, carry on tradition, or maybe they just believe that there is a higher power.

[Kathy]

ReaperMan, on Oct 24 2010, 12:52 PM, said:

Christianity builds on Judaism, they don't really contradict each other.

Christianity is heretical to Judaism. They do contradict each other. While they have the same foundation, they're still different. You can't have both. If you don't accept Jesus H. Christ as your savior then you can go lick Satan's balls for all eternity.

[CruX]

ReaperMan, on Oct 24 2010, 12:55 AM, said:

Like Mr. Flibble said most pick the religion that they believe to be closer to the truth, and don't believe "their" religion is the only true one.

...Then why do most people wind up having the same religion as their parents? Of course you're going to think something is closer to the truth if you've been conditioned to believe such from day one.

Captain Awesome, on Oct 23 2010, 10:55 AM, said:

Around 13 or 14, my parents started going to a Southern Baptist Church (Don't even get me started.) and have been forcing it on me ever since. I can't wait until I can move out.

Sucks to hear that, though I can somewhat sympathize. Around the same age my parents became disillusioned with all the corrupt backwater churches down here and stopped going altogether, which gave me sort of the autonomy to form my own opinions. I still considered myself a Christian and went to church for about another year or so afterwards, but eventually abandoned both the religion and the idea of a higher power. But when I was 21 and ready to move out of my parents' house, my mom was diagnosed with stage 4 NHL, and decided to give the whole church-going thing a second chance. She knew better than to try and 'force' it on me, by this point I'd already expressed my thoughts on the subject pretty clearly to her, but it didn't really help her out in the end, either. She had the exact same character flaws she'd always had (I don't like my mother very much at all, mind you), only now she was annoyingly sanctimonious. One time she came home from Lakewood (Joel Olsteen's megachurch down here in Houston) and told me that'd she tithed over eighty dollars that day, just so she could hear me "bitch". In hindsight I'm still not quite sure what shocked me more. The sheer ridiculous nous of that statement, or the fact that she somehow thought it'd deeply offend me if she gave money to a church.

[Master Fibbles]

When people actually choose their own faith, they make decisions based on what they know and what they have experienced. Unfortunately, many many people don't make decisions, they just follow the herd/flock. In many cases of Christianity you get people who were raised in a church and never know why so when they suddenly do get freedom (ie college) they quickly drop it for the joys of alcohol and random sex. There are also the people who are raised in a religion but once something happens (bad things happen to good people) or when someone presents some strawman argument, they drop one extreme for another. However, there are also a good number of people who either had some experience of revelation or took time to actually get to know what they believe (or what their religion believes) and then when they are given that freedom to make decisions on their own, they stick with what they believe because they actually have foundations in it.
One of my side projects has been in Youth Ministry and working in Catechetics (education of religion) for youth. I love teenagers and I think they should be given the chance to make their own decisions, but I think they should make informed decisions. By offering actual representations of doctrine and opportunities for revelation, I feel that those ministries give teenagers a chance to make an informed decision about their faith. You get parents who are only half way in it and so they don't educate their children, they just act self righteously or just think that praying for them will fix it. Those parents are the ones who never really made that real decision for their religion.

[MusicallyInspired]

This guy is my hero.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=x_o_xn-q5Zk

[Master Fibbles]

Nice...At first I thought it was Fresh Prince but then it sounded more like TURTLE Power...

[High Treason]

Got a new saddle for my BSA;


It had better be good, Brooks are still selling it for £125 - I got mine for £70

[High Treason]

Hardly worth making a topic about, but here's some Critical Mass footage that I haven't seen before... aparrently it's cancelled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoeBuyfz7X4...feature=recentf

[blackharted]

Pikachu, on Oct 29 2010, 01:24 PM, said:

Can you blame them? If it weren't for the new Naruto Ninja Fight 7000 games coming out every hour PSP would be completely dead.

Unfortunatly true. On a unrealated note who here has had surgery?

[High Treason]

Surgery? For what? Yeah, I've had surgery but not as much as I should have.

When I was born I had a hole in my back above my anus, I can't feel anything there anymore though the hole was removed. I am also prone to cysts, they usually occur in my back or legs and I just leave them alone but I've had them on my bollocks before and thus had them removed - they've come back again though and I don't get Anesthetic this time

I've also just had a procedure involving freezing a mole off my chest. Usually though, like if I break bones or cut myself open somewhere I just leave it and hope it will go away, I remember going to college on my bicycle with a broken foot and refusing to be sent home.

[Master Fibbles]

...your post is ripe with anal jokes...so I'll just leave it be.


I've had minor surgery which is hardly worth mentioning.

[ReaperMan]

High Treason, on Oct 29 2010, 06:20 PM, said:

...I had a hole in my back above my anus, I can't feel anything there anymore though the hole was removed.

I hear thats a good thing to have if you go to prison.

[OpenMaw]

blackharted, on Oct 29 2010, 01:52 PM, said:

On a unrealated note who here has had surgery?

Why are you asking?

The closest thing I had was the removal of my six wisdom teeth. Yes. Six.

[VinsaneOne]

Happy Birthday Gurty!