Fox, on 27 September 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:
First of all, just because someone is not like others doesn't means that person has a mental disorder. That's not a disorder, that's called being different. Remember that Homossexuality used to be treatened like a genuine disorder, until society began to accept it. How can you trust a diagnosis that depends on social norms?
Homosexuality is a mental disorder. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it or that it can be cured or treated... just like autism.
Fox, on 27 September 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:
That said, let's focus on the problem here: the validity of autism and ADHD diagnosis. Symptoms include lack of attention, anger, shyness, among others. These symptoms are vague and can be applied to virtually any person. Parents today don't know how to deal with children, and are willing to accept a diagnosis that says any problem their children have is not the parents fault.
But even if you don't see yourself in the position of judging whether or not the symptoms are valid, here are some statistics: in the US
near 1.5% of children have been diagnosed with autism, and
11% with ADHD. Depending of the state, ADHD rates are close to 20%. How much of the population must be diagnosed so it stops being considered a disorder? And why the rates increased so much recently?
I think there may be a bit of a language barrier issue here. Sure, it's definitely over-diagnosed but these are real conditions. Bi-polar Disorder and Clinical Depression are also over-diagnosed. They are still very real. This is a symptom of the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex.
Jeff, on 27 September 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:
It's a lot more to it than just not socializing with people. They have issues with non-verbal communication and a bunch of other stuff. People say "oh, well you didn't socialize much, so that's why you can't read facial expressions and other non-verbal communication". So we're going to teach you to be like the rest of us, then you'll know how to read non-verbal cues, socialize, and otherwise act like a "normal" person. In fact, I did try to socialize, go to soccer camps, hockey, bowling when I was a kid like the rest of the people, but I just didn't fit in.
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Look, the way I see it, society is just going to have to deal with people like me. I'm not going to change to fit into their little program they've got going on. Others have said similar things. They like the way they are. They shouldn't need to be changed to fit in with everyone else.
Like your homosexuality example, there will come a time when autism, etc, will become socially acceptable. Much like 60 years ago people weren't very tolerant of LGBTs or other groups, but now it's more acceptable.
I'm not trying to be mean or anything.
I have a friend who is autistic, and he's always told me that he's glad his parents didn't send him off to these new "autism camps" or whatever. The people he knew who ended up going to those things ended up getting worse and drawing into themselves more. He's tried to do the "normal thing" here and there and has had successes and failures. He still has a lot of issues with socialising and stuff, like we all just went to this big music festival last month, a group of friends around 40 people. Nobody could find him all day, turns out he just stayed in the same spot all day watching the shows. That's what he wanted to do, so that's what he did. He has his own little world he stays in, but he has no problem joining the rest of us when he's ready. He's my best bud and I love the unique aspects of his personality that wouldn't exist if he wasn't autistic. But he'll be the first to tell you that autistic kids need to be encouraged to get out there in the real world, or they'll never learn how to connect to anything. I've seen this kid grow a lot in the 7 or 8 years I've known him and I love him to death.