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Duke 3D Voxel Pack

User is offline   LeoD 

  • Duke4.net topic/3513

#2371

View PostDzierzan, on 01 November 2021 - 11:06 PM, said:

Leo, there is a thread for Ion Fury voxel pack :D. Post there that stuff. I know it is less visited than this thread, but still it is not right place for that.
Dang, Posted while half asleep.
Moderators, please move.
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User is offline   Dzierzan 

#2372

Back to the topic:

E4M11 has some double sided sprites for shading purposes. It works nicely for sprites, but badly for voxels as it renders two voxels, so they overlap. Now I see two solutions, use `notmd` in order to disable at least one side, let's say darker one or move the dark one into the ground (mdposzoff 99999).

Moving a sprite into the ground appears to be a better solution, but there's one slight issue... It works all fine in Polymost renderer but in Classic one, one side is rendered, but the other one is not.

This is how it looks like it Classic.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579337540985946156/905176964334227456/duke0005.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579337540985946156/905176966938890320/duke0006.png

Personally I never use Classic renderer and I wouldn't be suprised if majority of people use Polymost anyway.
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#2373

I use mostly classic rendering. Polymost only if I play the Steam version.
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User is offline   Jimmy 

  • Let's go Brandon!

#2374

I never use polymost.
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User is offline   Dzierzan 

#2375

Then I dunno, no matter the solution, one group will be hurt.
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User is offline   jkas789 

#2376

I use Polymost myself. What is the issue here? One voxel sign not showing up as voxel either on polymost or classic?

EDIT: Never mind, I'm retarded.

This post has been edited by jkas789: 03 November 2021 - 04:55 PM

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User is offline   Phredreeke 

#2377

View PostDzierzan, on 03 November 2021 - 01:07 PM, said:

Then I dunno, no matter the solution, one group will be hurt.


The solution would be to update one of the renderers so it matches the behavior of the other.

Also, doesn't notmd merely make the sprite remain drawn as a sprite?
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User is offline   Dzierzan 

#2378

If you use "notmd", you will see both sprite and voxel in Polymost. And in Classic renderer, one side will be rendered as sprite, the other as voxel.
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User is offline   Ninety-Six 

#2379

Attached Image: duke0282.png

what
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User is online   NightFright 

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#2380

That looks like DUKEDC3 "Nuked Files", right?
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#2381

View PostNightFright, on 12 November 2021 - 03:15 AM, said:

That looks like DUKEDC3 "Nuked Files", right?


It is indeed.
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User is offline   Ninety-Six 

#2382

View PostNightFright, on 12 November 2021 - 03:15 AM, said:

That looks like DUKEDC3 "Nuked Files", right?

yes

that wasn't the only one either:

Attached Image: duke0281.png


In fact the whole level seemed...unright. Besides the paintings having an angle separate from the wall (i dont even know how thats possible), the chair directions seemed raw, models sort of clipped into the wall at certain points, weapon pickup orientations were off...

That was the only level in DC that was like that though. The others were normal.

EDIT: Actually, thinking on it, Brown Water seemed a bit off, too. Not anywhere near as much, but the main control console (the one that controls the shutter and has the security camera to the yellow key) stuck out to me as odd with the way the chairs were arranged, plus the donut box facing the monitors, rear end sort of hovering above the console.

This post has been edited by Ninety-Six: 12 November 2021 - 05:25 AM

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User is offline   Phredreeke 

#2383

I wonder if the maphacks were made for the Megaton version of the map but applied to the vanilla map (as found in the GRP file) or the other way around.

Edit: Those sprites are angled correctly in the ERP for me, and also correctly when I tested with maphacks disabled in GDX.

This post has been edited by Phredreeke: 12 November 2021 - 07:22 AM

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User is offline   Ninety-Six 

#2384

View PostPhredreeke, on 12 November 2021 - 06:38 AM, said:

I wonder if the maphacks were made for the Megaton version of the map but applied to the vanilla map (as found in the GRP file) or the other way around.

Edit: Those sprites are angled correctly in the ERP for me, and also correctly when I tested with maphacks disabled in GDX.


I don't know what to offer. I just installed the voxel pack from github.
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User is offline   Dzierzan 

#2385

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/311884728317771777/920805378273452062/duke0000.png
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User is online   NightFright 

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#2386

Added to Github.
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User is offline   Dzierzan 

#2387

Posted Image
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User is offline   Dzierzan 

#2388

Alright, this meter voxel has exactly the same issue as above signs. But since I didn't get any real answers to my question, I am leaving this ZOffset fighting issue (only in Polymost).

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/311884728317771777/921122828579901441/meter.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579337540985946156/921123848030675024/duke0002.png
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User is offline   Striker 

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#2389

View PostDzierzan, on 16 December 2021 - 11:38 AM, said:

Alright, this meter voxel has exactly the same issue as above signs. But since I didn't get any real answers to my question, I am leaving this ZOffset fighting issue (only in Polymost).

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/311884728317771777/921122828579901441/meter.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579337540985946156/921123848030675024/duke0002.png

If this is a case of two sprites in one location, the best bet is likely to take the extra sprite and sink very deep into the floor with a maphack. (To any devs reading: We could use a way to force cstat or make sprites and models alike invisible from maphacks, so massive offsets aren't needed.)
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User is online   NightFright 

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#2390

Github updated.
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User is offline   Dzierzan 

#2391

@Striker

Can't Polymost support voxel rendering the same way as Classic one does it? Which means it only renders "one" side. That would mean shading for sprites would be kept, as mappers intended it to be. For Ion Fury I just sunk some sprites deep underground, but that's no ideal solution, as I am breaking mappers' intentions.
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User is offline   Striker 

  • Auramancer

#2392

Maybe, but likely not easily. Polymost renders voxels by converting them to models when the renderer is initialized, meaning realtime alteration is difficult. Software does things much differently.
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User is offline   Micky C 

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#2393

I recall Plagman once saying he intended to implement voxels in polymer as a point cloud. Of course, if it were easy it would have been done already I imagine.
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User is offline   Dzierzan 

#2394

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https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/17529329/146850128-0d65dfd2-efd4-4585-94d5-2fcb2211dccc.png
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User is online   NightFright 

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#2395

Github updated. Note that with the holidays coming up, my activities will reduce significantly. Will still try to get things checked, but don't be surprised if it sometimes takes a bit longer than usual.
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User is offline   jkas789 

#2396

You're the bees knees NightFright!
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User is offline   RPD Guy 

#2397

This is the best thread I've ever seen in this forum. You guys are awesome.
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#2398

View PostStriker, on 19 December 2021 - 02:14 PM, said:

Maybe, but likely not easily. Polymost renders voxels by converting them to models when the renderer is initialized, meaning realtime alteration is difficult. Software does things much differently.

This conversion is also really inefficient and causes a massive delay at startup when larger voxels are used.

If this can be improved in the future, it would be greatly appreciated.
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User is offline   Phredreeke 

#2399

Back in January I asked Lucius whether he would be willing to license the hardware voxel renderer from TFE under a Build compatible license once it's ready. He seemed open to the idea if there was interest.
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#2400

View PostDzierzan, on 22 October 2021 - 09:18 AM, said:

Letters are ready as well, but there's a small issue I cannot figure out. And it seems the same issue money has as well, but it's less visable. I understand that the sprite is being flipped, but that I cannot understand. Is something happening code wise?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579337540985946156/901157099826974730/duke0011.png



This issue will affect any voxel that has the cstat flip bits (4 and 8) set.

I opened an issue here: https://voidpoint.io...32/-/issues/230

Support for cstat flip was added by NukeYKT at some point, hopefully the issue was just an error and not a fundamental problem.

This post has been edited by Doom64hunter: 29 December 2021 - 12:38 AM

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