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Is Duke actually cool?

User is offline   NUKEMDAVE 

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View PostJeager1999, on Jan 2 2011, 01:59 AM, said:

I bet the first thing you'll find on Youtube when the Club Members get the Demo is Clips of Duke Playing with Poo.


True. That's the first thing I'm heading for. :P
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View PostRaziel, on Dec 29 2010, 05:44 AM, said:

You know guys, I love Duke3D and will love DNF, but seriously, is Duke Nukem as a character actually cool?!

I mean... He's basically a dude in his 40s who hangs around in strip joints all day with a drinking problem. He cheats on his women and believes mainly in one-night-stands. He's also got a foul mouth and the brain capacity of a fruit fly. I mean, any guy walking around saying "I've got balls of steel!" is definitely a Neanderthal.

I considered him cool when I was in my mid-teens, but thinking about him now, he's not really much of a role model. Rather than looking up to him and laughing with him when I play the game, I just find myself laughing at him now.

What do you guys think?


Raz.
I actually don't totally find Duke cool either, though I do also like to play him in the games. What I find interesting is that not every woman Duke meets finds him 'sexy' (he accused Bombshell of being a lesbian as she wasn't interested in him, or so I've heard) so it makes his douchebag qualities tolerable to me :P

I think with Duke is that he only looks like he gets with a lot of women because he is primarily found in places with loose women, and these are usually willing to sleep with any man provided he has the cash or something else they want. Also, there are loads of women in real life who find it thrilling to sleep with dangerous men, and I wouldn't be suprised that 'the bigger the star, the bigger his percieved sex appeal.'
But stick him in any place outside of strip joints and whorehouses, and he'll be met with a look of disgust at his piggishness.

Also, he might be a man's fantasy, but for women he exibits some really undesirable traits. He gets angry easily, and he sleeps around with a lot of women (which makes him a huge risk for disease.) Plus he is too overly muscled to be attractive. If he was pictured as high normal (well muscled, but not bodybuilder) then he'd ultra sexy. But he's to the point of grotesque, and if that's what guys think most women would swoon over, then they're in for a surprise. :P
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View PostJeager1999, on Jan 1 2011, 11:59 PM, said:

I bet the first thing you'll find on Youtube when the Club Members get the Demo is Clips of Duke Playing with Poo.

Of course there will be a mod level where your only weapon is poo...
I wonder if he will say "Eat Shit, and Die..." when he throws it?

These are all reasons I welcome my failing memory. :P

MrBlackCat
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View PostMetalwolf, on Jan 2 2011, 01:03 PM, said:

I actually don't totally find Duke cool either, though I do also like to play him in the games. What I find interesting is that not every woman Duke meets finds him 'sexy' (he accused Bombshell of being a lesbian as she wasn't interested in him, or so I've heard) so it makes his douchebag qualities tolerable to me :P

I think with Duke is that he only looks like he gets with a lot of women because he is primarily found in places with loose women, and these are usually willing to sleep with any man provided he has the cash or something else they want. Also, there are loads of women in real life who find it thrilling to sleep with dangerous men, and I wouldn't be suprised that 'the bigger the star, the bigger his percieved sex appeal.'
But stick him in any place outside of strip joints and whorehouses, and he'll be met with a look of disgust at his piggishness.

Also, he might be a man's fantasy, but for women he exibits some really undesirable traits. He gets angry easily, and he sleeps around with a lot of women (which makes him a huge risk for disease.) Plus he is too overly muscled to be attractive. If he was pictured as high normal (well muscled, but not bodybuilder) then he'd ultra sexy. But he's to the point of grotesque, and if that's what guys think most women would swoon over, then they're in for a surprise. :P

Dude, you are either gay or you're a woman because your critics are exactly the ones that I would expect to hear from a woman.
I'm not really sure if he's the kind that goes to whores. The way I see him, he's likes to give money to cheap dancers as a sign of disrespect towards them, since he is too cool and has much higher standards than them.
He just has a short visual pleasure and then dismisses the dancers.
Duke is very misogynistic and he makes the big majority of us smile because more or less we all get satisfaction into seeing a cheap woman being treated like an object.
We might not all think like that but our subconscious knows that.
Duke is a major hero and he is in the position to not give a shit about any woman or man from any bar.
He embodies the pure heart of a true tornado hero.
Where he goes, stuff needs to move aside or it gets ruined and destroyed.
Remember the "It's my way or... Hell it's my way" One liner :P
He only has his way and nothing can stop him.

This post has been edited by Mr.Deviance: 03 January 2011 - 10:50 PM

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View PostMr.Deviance, on Jan 4 2011, 01:45 AM, said:

Dude, you are either gay or you're a woman because your critics are exactly the ones that I would expect to hear from a woman.
I'm not really sure if he's the kind that goes to whores. The way I see him, he's likes to give money to cheap dancers as a sign of disrespect towards them, since he is too cool and has much higher standards than them.
He just has a short visual pleasure and then dismisses the dancers.
Duke is very misogynistic and he makes the big majority of us smile because more or less we all get satisfaction into seeing a cheap woman being treated like an object.
We might not all think like that but our subconscious knows that.
Duke is a major hero and he is in the position to not give a shit about any woman or man from any bar.
He embodies the pure heart of a true tornado hero.
Where he goes, stuff needs to move aside or it gets ruined and destroyed.
Remember the "It's my way or... Hell it's my way" One liner :P
He only has his way and nothing can stop him.

Ah, you do make some very fine points. I haven't thought of it that way, as most of the fan hoopla on some other sites seemed focused on what Duke will do with the various women, rather then on his coolness aspects.

And I am a woman :P
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View PostMetalwolf, on Jan 4 2011, 01:20 PM, said:

Ah, you do make some very fine points. I haven't thought of it that way, as most of the fan hoopla on some other sites seemed focused on what Duke will do with the various women, rather then on his coolness aspects.

And I am a woman :P

Ah well, you have it written in your sig too, don't know how I've missed that but I'm glad to know I was right.
And yes, I agree that many "fans" obsess over the subject of Duke and women in general.
As a true Duke 3D fan, I know better.
Duke Nukem embodies that guy that doesn't need a wife and he rather have a new girl all the time.
Remember "I go where I please, and I please, where I go" one liner.
His character is so macho that he doesn't need to care about beautiful women, he can just have any girl because they are all obsessed with him.
It's actually very interesting to imagine how a girl like you manages to like Duke Nukem.
If he actually existed and he ever went past you, if he liked you he would probably slap your ass and ask you something like " Hey baby, wanna dance" :P
Duke Nukem seems to only like wild girls that like to party hard.
Duke's definitely not the kind of man that would like/could ever be liked by girls that are patiently waiting for the right person to marry or "make love" to :P

This post has been edited by Mr.Deviance: 04 January 2011 - 05:50 PM

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User is offline   NUKEMDAVE 

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View PostMetalwolf, on Jan 4 2011, 05:20 PM, said:

And I am a woman :P


No. Not possible. :P
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View PostNUKEMDAVE, on Jan 4 2011, 10:05 PM, said:

No. Not possible. :P
Search your feelings, you know it to be true! :P


Mr.D, I think the reason I like Duke Nukem is that he has a 'personality.' Unlike many other action heros, he stands out, and I always liked hearing his snarky one-liners whenever he comes across something interesting. And I also like him because I've been in the military, and the love of playing around with bullet-based weaponry (even if it's just mostly on a computer now) has never left me.

That, and PigCops, I love fighting those guys too :P
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View PostMetalwolf, on Jan 5 2011, 07:21 AM, said:

Search your feelings, you know it to be true! :P

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! !!


:P


Sorry couldn't resist

This post has been edited by blackharted: 05 January 2011 - 07:27 AM

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User is offline   MrBlackCat 

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View Postblackharted, on Jan 5 2011, 09:26 AM, said:

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! !!!!!


:P


Sorry couldn't resist


WAIT! Here...
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

There!

MrBlackCat
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View PostMrBlackCat, on Jan 5 2011, 09:57 AM, said:


Ultra funny!! LOL!! The link must be quoted forever!!!
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User is offline   MrBlackCat 

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View Postblackharted, on Jan 5 2011, 12:45 PM, said:

Ultra funny!! LOL!! The link must be quoted forever!!!


I think I found that over on 3D Realms forums some time back... I keep it on my quick bar... for emergencies of course. Hehehe

MrBlackCat
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View PostMrBlackCat, on Jan 5 2011, 11:57 AM, said:

I think I found that over on 3D Realms forums some time back... I keep it on my quick bar... for emergencies of course. Hehehe

MrBlackCat

Keep it on your quick bar forever.
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#44

Another question: Is this thread cool?
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#45

Are necros cool?
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User is offline   MrBlackCat 

#46

I don't know about these... but release dates for Duke Nukem Forever are VERY cool...
Release date is not just cool... it is Sofa-King Cool. http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/smile.gif

MrBlackCat
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#47

Actually cool yes, but not fake cool like the box art
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User is offline   MrBlackCat 

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View PostSinisterambo, on Jan 26 2011, 06:28 AM, said:

Actually cool yes, but not fake cool like the box art

This is true... I have like 100 posts on GB Forums in the box art section. LOL!

But only minutes ago, 2K Elizabeth gave hope it might be changing... I hope it is for the better.
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View PostMrBlackCat, on Jan 28 2011, 04:11 AM, said:

This is true... I have like 100 posts on GB Forums in the box art section. LOL!

But only minutes ago, 2K Elizabeth gave hope it might be changing... I hope it is for the better.


She will add the cap!!
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View PostMrBlackCat, on Jan 28 2011, 01:41 PM, said:

This is true... I have like 100 posts on GB Forums in the box art section. LOL!

But only minutes ago, 2K Elizabeth gave hope it might be changing... I hope it is for the better.


Ooooo, what did she say/do?

Also, I doubt 3D Realms would have put so much fake cool stuff into the marketing of the game.
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View PostMicky C, on Jan 28 2011, 12:52 AM, said:

Ooooo, what did she say/do?

Also, I doubt 3D Realms would have put so much fake cool stuff into the marketing of the game.

does the trailer of DNF 2001 count as fake?
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#52

View Postduke4everman, on Feb 25 2011, 11:02 AM, said:

does the trailer of DNF 2001 count as fake?

No. Jeez do you live under a rock or something?
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#53

View Postfuegerstef, on Jan 21 2011, 02:08 AM, said:

Another question: Is this thread cool?

Another question: Does stealing street fighter art and calling it his own makes your master cool?
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View PostMr.Deviance, on Feb 25 2011, 01:47 PM, said:

Another question: Does stealing street fighter art and calling it his own makes your master cool?

IMO no its not cool
duke in real life you would think he was an arrogant ass and crazy.
but in a vieo game character yes he is.
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View Postduke4everman, on Mar 5 2011, 07:13 PM, said:

IMO no its not cool
duke in real life you would think he was an arrogant ass and crazy.
but in a vieo game character yes he is.

Your entire post is a clusterfuck that makes no sense, nor does it seem to have anything to do with what I said in that post, one month ago...

This post has been edited by Mr.Deviance: 05 March 2011 - 07:25 PM

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#56

More like 10 days, anyway. How do you know that guy is stealing street fighter art?!? And for what game/mod. I don't know who he is xD sorry, i just came home from the moon >.<
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#57

Mr Deviance is just trying to pay him out about Duke Nukem Reloaded, pay no attention to this.
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#58

While this subject is kinda a silly thing, I gotta throw in my two-cents because my experience with this has always been a bit unusual.

When I first played Duke3D, I was a naive little twerp for a teenager. Though I loved gorefests, I hardly ever cussed, never drank, never did drugs, wasn't into porn, and generally wasn't into girls at all. Not that I was homosexual or anything, but just the whole concept of dating, sex, etc bored me, because there just wasn't enough there (especially in my school) to interest me - I never had Pamela Anderson on my ceiling, or hid playboys under my bed, etc.

Then one day one of my friends showed me Duke3D and played through Red Light District. For some reason, I was absolutely blown away. The interactivity, the details in the lighting, the foul-mouthed Duke, and the little inside jokes (The OJ video clip on TV had me laughing like crazy). And there was something that just meshed perfectly well together in my mind, about the idea of a gun fight with aliens in the middle of a strip bar with the music pumping.

I bought the game shortly thereafter and got a huge kick out of it. I guess the point I'm trying to make is, even though I was a complete priss at the time, I absolutely loved the Duke character. Duke more or less represents my first personal journey into the dark side of adulthood. Where if anyone else had acted like Duke I probably would've hated them for their behavior, for some reason I couldn't help but smile at the guy and his antics. And I still get just as much of a kick out of it today.

I just hope "Forever" hasn't lost that touch.

This post has been edited by wayskobfssae: 08 March 2011 - 12:45 AM

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#59

You mean the light side of adulthood.
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I'll Just leave these here as pseudo evidence:

http://thepunchlinei...om/archives/448 Pop Culture
http://thepunchlinei...om/archives/551 Boys night out
http://thepunchlinei...om/archives/712 Science
http://thepunchlinei...om/archives/275 Around the time of 3DR bust
http://thepunchlinei...om/archives/727 Family man?
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