[Stabs]

if multiplayer is going to be aliens vs edf with vehicles and a more arcadey type of bf shooter than that is just too cool, multi will be alive for years, DM alone don't cut it these days.

[Martin]

Lotan, on Oct 10 2010, 06:36 PM, said:

If it's not on Steam then I'm fucked... Steam was the ONLY (legit) WAY to play game for me on the day of release. Now I'm going to wait like 1-2 weeks before playing this damn game.

Can you not just do what I've done many a time and pre-order the game from the internet somewhere? It generally gets delivered to me no later than the day before the retail release, sometimes a couple days before.

[Kathy]

The 1-2 weeks wait I was talking about was exactly about ordering the game from internet shop. Since the shop is abroad, I'll wait at least a week for the game to be delivered.

[Master Fibbles]

Lotan, on Oct 11 2010, 01:50 AM, said:

I don't get it. If the demo is MP-only then you won't play the full game?

It doesn't have to make sense. I posted in hot anger.

More along the lines that I won't buy it any where near release since I won't know what singleplayer will be like. I want to know that I am not paying $50 for a 10 hour game that is really built around multiplayer. A good singleplayer demo will introduce the basic premise of the game and I might get an idea of how long the game is or how much I'd play it (ie replay value without mods). Too many devs rely on MP to preserve the life of a game (which allows them to keep the price up).

[Kathy]

What the hell? It's DNF we're talking about. I don't give a shit about whether or not it has the demo before buying.

[Master Fibbles]

I am poor.
I'm reserved on paying money for games these days because I'm poor and I've spent money on games that turned out to suck. I want to see that trailer. It is really hard for me to get excited about DNF right now...you can't get excited about the girl you had a crush on in high school at your 15 year reunion...you have moved on well beyond the bubbly teenage crush stage. I need to see the goods.

[Kathy]

But the girl costs 50-60 bucks. Is that really a lot? Plus it's DNF for Lucifer's sake!

[Honza]

Lotan, on Oct 11 2010, 06:42 PM, said:

But the girl costs 50-60 bucks. Is that really a lot? Plus it's DNF for Lucifer's sake!

I thought that in Russia are girls way cheaper
They'll see my money for DNF, eventually and when it's done.

[Stewox]

More sites started to pick it up.

http://www.computera...e.php?id=268880

[Kathy]

Honza, on Oct 11 2010, 09:45 PM, said:

I thought that in Russia are girls way cheaper

I highly doubt that anything in Russia is cheaper. Although, I don't know how much the "girls" cost.

PC games* are, but because they have crappy russian dub etc. New console games are being sold for like $80.

* -oh, and by the way. Some games Steam doesn't sell for russians because of our idiotic publishers. Thank Beelzebub, I was able to buy Civ5 before it was taken off from Steam 4 days after the release.

[Honza]

Lotan, on Oct 11 2010, 11:48 PM, said:

I highly doubt that anything in Russia is cheaper. Although, I don't know how much the "girls" cost.

PC games* are, but because they have crappy russian dub etc. New console games are being sold for like $80.

* -oh, and by the way. Some games Steam doesn't sell for russians because of our idiotic publishers. Thank Beelzebub, I was able to buy Civ5 before it was taken off from Steam 4 days after the release.

I thought that's what you mentioned so just fyi more info available here - just to broaden your horizon (it's $25 and up ) - you know this kind of stuff definitely is connected with DNF and Duke himself too bad that guys @ GBX forums miss this one and most importantly:

Quote

“In Soviet Russia, Prostitute pays YOU!!”
~ Russian Reversal on Prostitutes

(http://uncyclopedia....ki/Prostitution)

damn man it's goddamn expensive... (the games in Russia)

[Master Fibbles]

I don't want the hooker equivalent of a PC game...that would be stupid.

The point I'm trying to make is that after 14 years you can't just shout out "We have DNF" and get me to buy it. I need to know more and I don't want some washed out poorly made POS after waiting 14 years for a game.

[Mr.Deviance]

Mr.Flibble, on Oct 11 2010, 04:29 PM, said:

I don't want the hooker equivalent of a PC game...that would be stupid.

The point I'm trying to make is that after 14 years you can't just shout out "We have DNF" and get me to buy it. I need to know more and I don't want some washed out poorly made POS after waiting 14 years for a game.

It's funny how people transform so radically after big news.
Before all of these "DNF is getting released" news, videos etc, you seemed to be somebody that criticize people that called DNF bad and you labeled them trolls.
You were acting so mature and secure and now all you do is post like one of the people that you used to call trolls.
Why don't you fucking get a chill pill and stop whining for once.
I don't understand how you are contributing when you are posting things like "I don't want some washed out poorly made POS after waiting 14 years for a game" DUUH.
How useless is that sentence right there? Are you under the impression that any of us want a washed out poorly made POS after many years of wait?
Also, do you think that anybody will claim that his work is a POS?
What you call a piece of shit, might seem very good or even perfect for somebody else.
If you fear something, then list the elements that you fear in DNF instead of saying you don't want the game to be a POS.
The game will not be a POS because after I've seen the demo, shots taken from the trailer, gameplay at Jace Hall, leaked gameplay from 2009, I wasn't even once given the sensation that the game will be a POS...
Sure, I felt that the game might not be on par with today's games but never did I expect it to be a POS.
If you are a Duke Nukem fan, why can't you just forget the technological progress that happened since Duke3D and just try to see DNF as a sequel to Duke3D and not a competitor to crysis or w/e.

It's 100% guaranteed that the game will AT LEAST look better than Duke3D with polymer and HRP.
Duke3D is a fun game even today even with it's shit graphics but when played with polymer and hrp it becomes fucking awesome.
When you feel paranoia striking that tells you, you've waited so long for DNF and it's going to suck, don't forget one important thing!
The DNF game is made by the people that made Duke3D and George has spent 20-30 mil bucks out of his own pocket just so he gets the ambient he desires in the game!
What makes you think that the guys which made DN3D so good, would fail to achieve another Duke game that's at least as good as Duke3D if not better?

To me, the idea that DNF is going to have everything that Duke3D's ambient had and everything that Duke3D's ambient was supposed to have but couldn't because of tech limitations, is almost a fact!
Quote from wikipedia

Quote

The character was redesigned into the present tough guy incarnation by George Broussard, and Allen Blum, for the 1996 game Duke Nukem 3D.

How can you doubt that DNF is going to have lots of personality when the 2 key guys that made Duke3D so good, slaved over DNF and spent their OWN money LOTS of their own fucking money on it?

[Kathy]

Honza, on Oct 12 2010, 03:58 AM, said:

I thought that's what you mentioned so just fyi more info available here - just to broaden your horizon (it's $25 and up )

"Religions: Russian Orthodox, Muslim, Buddhist"
Who the hell on this site needs this kind of info?

[Honza]

Lotan, on Oct 12 2010, 07:42 AM, said:

"Religions: Russian Orthodox, Muslim, Buddhist"
Who the hell on this site needs this kind of info?

as you could see there are also "street adventures" available so it helps you not to run into unecessary difficulties

[Master Fibbles]

Mr.Deviance, on Oct 11 2010, 10:52 PM, said:

It's funny how people transform so radically after big news.
Before all of these "DNF is getting released" news, videos etc, you seemed to be somebody that criticize people that called DNF bad and you labeled them trolls.
You were acting so mature and secure and now all you do is post like one of the people that you used to call trolls.
Why don't you fucking get a chill pill and stop whining for once.
I don't understand how you are contributing when you are posting things like "I don't want some washed out poorly made POS after waiting 14 years for a game" DUUH.

You clearly are confusing me with someone else. I've always been reserved about DNF even coming out nonetheless being a good game. Having low expectations has been my life for some time and pretty much my existence on these forums.

Mr.Deviance, on Oct 11 2010, 10:52 PM, said:

It's 100% guaranteed that the game will AT LEAST look better than Duke3D with polymer and HRP.

And that is supposed to make me want the game? I've never once said that I desire great graphics. How is looking better supposed to make the game worthwhile? Duke3D was behind graphically when it came out and it still sold better. I enjoy Duke3D because of the game mechanics and the levels and the character. It is a fun game.

Mr.Deviance, on Oct 11 2010, 10:52 PM, said:

The DNF game is made by the people that made Duke3D and George has spent 20-30 mil bucks out of his own pocket just so he gets the ambient he desires in the game!
What makes you think that the guys which made DN3D so good, would fail to achieve another Duke game that's at least as good as Duke3D if not better?

It hasn't been made by the people who made Duke3D. I think there is only a small percentage of people on the team of this generation of DNF that worked on Duke3D. Maybe the numbers have gone up since it moved to Gearbox but most of the people who made Duke3D have moved on.

Mr.Deviance, on Oct 11 2010, 10:52 PM, said:

Quote from wikipedia

And...credibility completly gone.

It should be added that I never said that the game will suck but that it could suck. I used the Optative there for a reason. We don't know much about the game. There is no trailer and little bits of information. Sure, we have more than we did even when 3DR closed up shop, but unless I'm missing something, there isn't a whole lot of information about the actual game (how it plays, the levels, etc).

[MusicallyInspired]

Aren't there games on Steam that don't use Steam or GFWL for multiplayer? There's certainly absolutely no reason why they have to.

[Master Fibbles]

Of course there are. I imagine that most of the non-Valve games do not use Steam for multiplayer.

[MusicallyInspired]

Or GFWL. So why wouldn't DNF be able to do the same thing? What's the big worry here and the anti-Steam campaign about? I still don't get it.

[Tetsuo]

Mr.Flibble, on Oct 12 2010, 08:10 AM, said:

Duke3D was behind graphically when it came out and it still sold better.

Many people seem to forget or never knew this fact. But even so it's come a long way since then with us running it at resolutions, art assets, tech, etc that we could only dream of when it first came out. Anyway It's probably a good idea to keep ones expectations low when it comes to DNF even now considering its history. It seems like suddenly a lot of people have forgotten it when Gearbox came in. If it comes out I'll probably at least give it a try if not then *shrug* just another day all the same. It's hard to know how it plays though unless you get your hands on it but what I've seen so far looks good.

[Honza]

Tetsuo, on Oct 13 2010, 06:50 AM, said:

Many people seem to forget or never knew this fact. But even so it's come a long way since then with us running it at resolutions, art assets, tech, etc that we could only dream of when it first came out. Anyway It's probably a good idea to keep ones expectations low when it comes to DNF even now considering its history. It seems like suddenly a lot of people have forgotten it when Gearbox came in. If it comes out I'll probably at least give it a try if not then *shrug* just another day all the same. It's hard to know how it plays though unless you get your hands on it but what I've seen so far looks good.

"Duke3D was behind graphically when it came out and it still sold better."
I just keep saying this, however developer studios doesn't believe and just hire more ppl to do graphics and all what I hear from ordinary players is jabber about "awesome graphics" which is nothing else but glossy fart. See at gameplay/graphics ratio of WoW and Age of Conan, WoW still has milions of subscribers and AoC servers are slowly shutting down.

[Luther Blissett]

Well it was not really THAT behind. I would say only Quake topped it, and it was not out when DN3D shareware was released.

The Build engine was quite good. And i remember many many magazines and players giving DUke graphics the edge over the grainy, colorless Quake graphics ( remember that GL quake came out in 97)

[Kathy]

Because good graphics and great art direction will always look better than fantastic graphics and decent art direction.

[Luther Blissett]

Lotan, on Oct 13 2010, 03:36 AM, said:

Because good graphics and great art direction will always look better than fantastic graphics and decent art direction.

Yeah that's the reason i don't have any doubts DNF will pull its on weight in the graphics category;)

[kaisersoze]

Took the survey and also put my vote in for dedicated servers.

[Stewox]

Good , the bets info we have , it's that DNF is an unreal based game this means it has the networking kind already in , all they did is upgraded hopefully.

[Martin]

Mr.Flibble, on Oct 12 2010, 01:29 AM, said:

I don't want the hooker equivalent of a PC game...that would be stupid.

The point I'm trying to make is that after 14 years you can't just shout out "We have DNF" and get me to buy it. I need to know more and I don't want some washed out poorly made POS after waiting 14 years for a game.

Dear lord. It's a computer game. Try the demo, play it at a friend's house or whatever, if you like it, buy it. If not, don't. It's not like it'll be some huge tragedy if you don't like it.

[Master Fibbles]

That's what I've been saying...isn't it? It is just a game...and I don't buy games unless I know they will be worth the money I put into them...
I want a demo and I will decide if I will pay for the game or not based on that and what people (real people, not game raters on sites) say about it.

[Hail_Duke]

For those who are looking for alternatives to Steam, have a look at Gamersgate. There's no telling whether DNF will be up there, though I'd wager it would as long as it's not Steam-exclusive. I get most of my digital purchases there because of good customer support, and their Blue Coins reward system. It also doesn't restrict the management of your game like Steam does.

[Stewox]

From the Pitchford VIDEOGAMER review:

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"This is going to be the new online sport." And Duke 3D never really was. We all played it and we all loved it, but it wasn't like, "This is our sport". It was more like, "It's great fun to use these different tools because they're unique tools in the shooter space, and the environments were well put together for multiplayer, and it was just fun to get on with our buddies and beat each other up."

Dedicated servers confirmed , just pray for it that he has the same context as me

with "sport" he means eSports maybe , not possible with matchmaking Atleast what's out there , 3rd party , blizzard has this all proprietary , maybe DNF will have really good self implementation.




I am going to buy this game first day , (or preorder from local shops) , It's getting better and better.