I'm about to start working on a pretty massive level but need an idea of how big I can make it before I should consider breaking it down into separate maps and joining them using the hub trick. Numbers themselves don't mean anything to me.
What's the biggest map you know of that gets nearest the limitations of the eduke32 build engine?
Thanks
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Biggest standalone map for eduke32?
#1 Posted 23 December 2009 - 04:42 PM
#2 Posted 23 December 2009 - 05:34 PM
Huh? Maps instead of numbers? Well I guess one of Zaxtor's maps?
#3 Posted 23 December 2009 - 05:42 PM
Not in therms of size but i think my map Blown Fuses and CraigFatman´s LPT map are the ones that use almost all resources.
#4 Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:45 PM
Holy crap, I'd not played through any of the Duke Plus levels. That map is outstanding! Unfortunately it froze on me after I beat the Battlelord, but christ that level is awesome.
As far as the numbers, the max is 2096 sectors, 16384 walls and 16384 sprites, right?
As far as the numbers, the max is 2096 sectors, 16384 walls and 16384 sprites, right?
#5 Posted 23 December 2009 - 09:05 PM
dopefish, on Dec 23 2009, 08:45 PM, said:
Holy crap, I'd not played through any of the Duke Plus levels. That map is outstanding! Unfortunately it froze on me after I beat the Battlelord, but christ that level is awesome.
As far as the numbers, the max is 2096 sectors, 16384 walls and 16384 sprites, right?
As far as the numbers, the max is 2096 sectors, 16384 walls and 16384 sprites, right?
4096 sectors, but no one gets that high because they hit the wall limit first
I'm assuming that freeze you got was the eduke32 sound freeze as reported in other threads and was not a DP bug.
I'm going to release a DP update a little later tonight. I'll be away for a few days after tomorrow morning.
#6 Posted 24 December 2009 - 05:02 AM
dopefish, on Dec 24 2009, 01:45 AM, said:
Holy crap, I'd not played through any of the Duke Plus levels. That map is outstanding! Unfortunately it froze on me after I beat the Battlelord, but christ that level is awesome.
I glad you liked it. It´s funny you didnt play it before since you was one of the guys that commented the most on the WIP thread
Don´t worry if it crashed after killing the battlelord, what´s next after that is just walking throught half of the level again to find a key reader.
#7 Posted 24 December 2009 - 02:28 PM
Sangman, on Dec 24 2009, 03:34 AM, said:
Huh? Maps instead of numbers? Well I guess one of Zaxtor's maps?
That'd be my guess as well.
#8 Posted 24 December 2009 - 03:11 PM
Gambini, on Dec 24 2009, 05:02 AM, said:
I glad you liked it. It´s funny you didnt play it before since you was one of the guys that commented the most on the WIP thread
i think you have me confused with someone else...i only joined here a few days ago.
#9 Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:01 PM
DeeperThought, on Dec 23 2009, 09:05 PM, said:
4096 sectors, but no one gets that high because they hit the wall limit first
I'm assuming that freeze you got was the eduke32 sound freeze as reported in other threads and was not a DP bug.
I'm going to release a DP update a little later tonight. I'll be away for a few days after tomorrow morning.
I'm assuming that freeze you got was the eduke32 sound freeze as reported in other threads and was not a DP bug.
I'm going to release a DP update a little later tonight. I'll be away for a few days after tomorrow morning.
not with me, my biggest problem is a lack of secters for landscapes in high detail. unless its in a simcity2000 style, that eats up walls.
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#10 Posted 25 December 2009 - 05:11 AM
dopefish, on Dec 24 2009, 08:11 PM, said:
i think you have me confused with someone else...i only joined here a few days ago.
People should stop using ¨Dopefish¨ as screen name. There are so many of them
#11 Posted 25 December 2009 - 08:56 AM
Perhaps not as bad as creating a whole city in one map, that's gotta be tough. After being influenced by Postal 2, the Saints Row franchise, and Duke Theft Auto, all the GTA games thus far, to put together a whole, open sandbox map, I wonder if EDuke32 can take the stress, let alone with HRP and Polymer...I can't fathom how tough that'll be on framerate performance.
#12 Posted 26 December 2009 - 08:37 PM
A whole city isn't as much of a problem. The problem with most large environments is that the engine renders everything inside a sector if any part of the sector is visible. That means in a big open map you're rendering a ton of objects every frame. As long as you put barriers to the player's ability to view large numbers of sectors filled with stuff it would be possible to build something fairly extensive.
#13 Posted 26 December 2009 - 09:01 PM
heres something to try out, its a whole city to fly the skycar in while blasting dp recon cars, i posted it here before
CITYFLIGHT.zip (124.38K)
Number of downloads: 252
all lighting is produced via polymer lights
i just made an intersection with 4 buildings, copy and paste voila, a city in 10 mins
chop out some blocks, add water make bridges , elevate terrain and make appropriate slopes to make sure its not a flat city, then all the small details come into it
Its the approach you take to a city map which is important and balancing your detail with a strict regime to ensure quality around the whole city can stay uniform, and you dont want to run out walls to
CITYFLIGHT.zip (124.38K)
Number of downloads: 252
all lighting is produced via polymer lights
i just made an intersection with 4 buildings, copy and paste voila, a city in 10 mins
chop out some blocks, add water make bridges , elevate terrain and make appropriate slopes to make sure its not a flat city, then all the small details come into it
Its the approach you take to a city map which is important and balancing your detail with a strict regime to ensure quality around the whole city can stay uniform, and you dont want to run out walls to
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