pepsodent, on 28 July 2026 - 02:21 PM, said:
I agree, even though duke4 discord server was a tremendous help for me when I was starting out mapping it sucks as a place for the community. Its horrible pit of trash where everything good gets buried by pointless arguing over same thing every single day. Its unfortunate that I got into Duke this deep only now when the forum is completely desolate. What a shame.
Discord does have the features that make it closer to the forum system but the problem is 90% of userbase will never engage with it because that feature is buried deep under the shit and piss I mentioned above. Its a terrible place for archiving discussion or feedback since the place is made for short term quick conversations.
100%. It is where brain cells and (true) productivity go to die. It is non-stop noise, full of shit and whoever doesn't realize is just addicted to the dopamine and feeling of pseudo-importance to a degree and thus couldn't accept the perspective. I am genuinely angry I was lured to make an account in order to help with work on stuff a while back, biggest waste of time of my life (I wish I weren't dead serious), and I only ever stuck to the Duke servers too. It's like some kind of Reddit live, egos just farting in the wind non stop, can piss off just as much. Even to organize work on projects it isn't as efficient at all, just looks like it because of so many pings but most of them are just empty displays of personal confusion, or concerns that wouldn't exist if the person would have stopped a second to think before they typed; more personal investment to keep up with for less return.
Counterpoint: the forum infrastructure still exists and I don't get why some of us behave like it doesn't anymore. Let's just keep using the thing and stay focused. Place is as active as
you make it, we collectively choose how much is decentralized (also considering who really benefits from the move?). Slow activity isn't even wrong, just realistic and reasonable in a society that isn't, and runs on inflated illusions. And! From this point on it would be nice if we also collectively stopped derailing threads with mentions of Discord ever again, it is starting to become a trend and may be just as toxic as using it. It is going to keep existing (for however long I personally don't care), it is going to keep attracting the profiles it is designed for, the rest of us do not have to look, talk, or even think about it.
To get this thread back on topic: I thought it would be interesting to complement my earlier post with the relativization of the current model I explained; I don't think it is especially better than the old-school way, only one of its prolongations. To this day, every contribution to the stockpile thread (and they still happen) is more than welcome. Otherwise, in order to use community .art/.con/etc... the current consensus would be, you can do it but are expected to extract and restructure the components that you want yourself from the mods that involve them (and then should go without saying, make sure you credit). More difficult but a good challenge and way of learning how the game functions as long as one really is committed to doing something (rather than talking about it).