[Reaper_Man]

Why are conservative men obsessed with talking about transgender women?

[Danukem]

Reaper_Man, on 25 November 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Why are conservative men obsessed with talking about transgender women?

I don't know. Make a poll?

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On the specific thread topic:

Without sports subsidies, the issue largely disappears. In a viable sport, its organizers will respond to the preferences of the fans who pay for the sport to exist. If the fans don't want to see trans-athletes competing with cisgender athletes, then trans-athletes won't be in it for long. Again, I bring up the MMA example. There are a few cases of trans-women beating the shit out of cisgender women in MMA, but they are rare and are in small-time promotions. The only reason we even know about them are precisely because the phenomenon is so unpopular. Viewers don't want to see that and the promoters know it, so it's essentially a non-issue. The UFC for example has zero trans-women. Now, if viewers did want to see it, then a promotion could spring up and offer it and make money. But that wouldn't force other promotions to do it or force anyone to pay for it or watch it, so it would still be a non-issue to any freedom-loving person.

With subsidies, it's very different. Because then the sport organizers don't have to be responsive to the participants and fans. In fact, who needs fans? Mostly empty arena? No problem. The sport goes on regardless and people still get paid to organize it.

[Phredreeke]

Reaper_Man, on 25 November 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Why are conservative men obsessed with talking about transgender women?

Alex Jones was caught on-air with TS porn on his phone, just saying

[Forge]

Reaper_Man, on 25 November 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Why are conservative men obsessed with talking about transgender women?

Because they can.

[Fox]

Reaper_Man, on 25 November 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Why are conservative men obsessed with talking about transgender women?

Both sides seem obsessed with it

They will move to another subject sooner or later


People don't care much about sports anymore, trans women in women sports is a publicity stunt so people remember it still exists

[Phredreeke]

What if so many trans women have far left politics because the right thirsts so much for those that don't?

[Mark]

Reaper_Man, on 25 November 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Why are conservative men obsessed with talking about transgender women?

Because we are being badgered to not only accept them but to support them. Talking about it is a way to fight back without fists.

[Hank]

What has transgender to do with left and right? If you believe we live in a free country and you fight daily for your freedom you will defend other’s as well. If you believe in government can fix everything and want them to get involved, then the government needs to 'protect' this minority and may upset the majority. That to me, this is neither left nor right, rather it is either freedom to do or not to do because others have an issue with it.
Transgender peeps do not harm others by being such, except of course in social media and the mass media.

[DNSkill]

As far as trans women go… What I don’t get with the whole transgender thing is if it is meant to be that they feel they are the opposite sex from what they were born as and want to be treated as such, then why do they label themselves as trans and make it such a big deal that they are trans? That just seems to defeat the purpose. Is it more important for them be seen as a woman or to be seen as a transwoman? If it’s meant to be different then doesn’t it make sense for them to be separate from “cis” women and not considered the same thing? Wouldn’t it make sense then for them to not be a part of women’s sports? Furthermore, why is transgenderism tied together with the LGBT? Does this imply that being trans is gay or that those that are sexually interested in trans people are gay, or both? This would further imply that yes, there is meant to be a difference between a cis woman and a trans woman and it would make sense for the two to not be put together on sports teams outside of recreational ones.

I believe transgenders are deserving of rights and the feeling of being truly free, but some clarity on hot topic issues would go a long way in getting there. Pointing fingers and getting mad when people don’t understand is a great way to remain oppressed.

[Fox]

Phredreeke, on 27 November 2022 - 03:04 PM, said:

What if so many trans women have far left politics because the right thirsts so much for those that don't?

Do you have data about how many trans people are leftists?

[Reaper_Man]

Fox, on 28 November 2022 - 02:44 AM, said:

Do you have data about how many trans people are leftists?

Actually I'd ask you the same thing, about "both sides seem obsessed with it". As of this instant writing this comment, Fox News has 3 articles on their front page referencing trans people (although I think 2 of them are the same story), and CNN has zero. Even Breitbart only has 1.

Looking at online and "new media", the YouTube channels for Tim Pool, Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Matt Walsh - people who could reasonably be described as thought leaders among the contemporary right, especially the under 40 crowd - their channels are absolutely filled with trans panic and adjacent anti-woke or anti-LGBT videos.

Who's on the other side? Seriously. I can go access thousands of hours of anti-trans, anti-LGBT, anti-everything right-wing content in a single digit number of minutes from like a dozen different people, all of whom make more money than everyone in this thread combined by selling manufactured panic and outrage. Where can I find the other side that's obsessed with it like that?

[Phredreeke]

[Forge]

Reaper_Man, on 28 November 2022 - 05:19 AM, said:

Who's on the other side? Seriously. I can go access thousands of hours of anti-trans, anti-LGBT, anti-everything right-wing content in a single digit number of minutes from like a dozen different people, all of whom make more money than everyone in this thread combined by selling manufactured panic and outrage.

grifting and sensationalizing are big money tickets. All the 'news' outlets and 'commentators' do it. Left, right, doesn't matter. Even polls are skewed anymore because somebody is paying somebody else to get certain results.
The amount of times a female 'trans' person (that hasn't had bottom surgery) has tried to perv on some girl in a locker room happens a lot less that what most people are led to believe.
Most social 'emergencies' are just hyperbolic b.s. pushed by the government to cover up the actual crap they're doing.
Simple example is the ufo nonsense that went on in the 50's to cover up secret aircraft testing.

That being said, government agencies shouldn't be labeling parents as domestic terrorists because they don't like racism, disguised as marxism, disguised as revisionism, being taught at grade schools.

[Phredreeke]

Would crowd funding $100k to sue the local police after being arrested on suspicion of sending threatening e-mails to local government only to then go off on holiday in Ireland be considered grifting?

Edit: Anyway, what does this have to do with sports? Unless grifting is a sport now? Look, if it is a sport, trans women have equal rights to participate as cis women if you ask me.

[Sledgehammer]

Reaper_Man, on 25 November 2022 - 03:26 PM, said:

Why are conservative men obsessed with talking about transgender women?

Because they're extremely trendy. Not conservative men, just in case it has to be clarified.

As a matter of fact, it turns out that majority of them don't like it, for obvious reason of course. Actually, most of them became ones before it went mainstream.

Spoiler

Also, in most cases you wouldn't even know it without, you know, getting there.

[Forge]

[Balls of Steel Forever]

Forge, on 28 November 2022 - 10:39 AM, said:

grifting and sensationalizing are big money tickets. All the 'news' outlets and 'commentators' do it. Left, right, doesn't matter. Even polls are skewed anymore because somebody is paying somebody else to get certain results.
The amount of times a female 'trans' person (that hasn't had bottom surgery) has tried to perv on some girl in a locker room happens a lot less that what most people are led to believe.
Most social 'emergencies' are just hyperbolic b.s. pushed by the government to cover up the actual crap they're doing.
Simple example is the ufo nonsense that went on in the 50's to cover up secret aircraft testing.

That being said, government agencies shouldn't be labeling parents as domestic terrorists because they don't like racism, disguised as marxism, disguised as revisionism, being taught at grade schools.

I don't like bottom surgery

I was pining for zero depth for a while
But
It takes me ~8 hours to cum
(Meaning my dick/clit would be *less* sensitive after surgery)

And it doesn't have the advantage of let's be honest, anal without the need to douche.

And all the other options require semi constant dilation, otherwise you just end up with a zero depth anyways.

And I can barely maintain my med management, much less dilating twice a day.

If I and my trans masc roommate could just swap body parts without much repercussion I would be ok with it.

Also just because I have a dick doesn't mean I am going to sexually assault people. And if I was forced to go to the men's restroom I would always enter with boobs out, shirt off.

[Balls of Steel Forever]

Forge, on 01 December 2022 - 08:06 PM, said:

Jesus I am replying to old statements from a year ago.

Was this a calling card?
Were you trying to call me from the depths of hell
It takes a long time to crawl out