[Battle_Lord]

How long will Duke Nukem last? Return to castle wolfenstein, one of my favorite games, is dieing out And I would hate to see Duke go aswell, how long do you guys think duke will last?

[Forge]

Is this a Duke Nukem Forever setup?

[Battle_Lord]

Forge, on Aug 2 2009, 08:16 PM, said:

Is this a Duke Nukem Forever setup?

No no, Duke Nukem 3D. Like is it ever going to be abandoned where no one plays it anymore.

[William Gee]

I doubt DN3D will get abandoned. Too many people still love it.

[Jimmy]

The game will last as long as we love and respect it.

[Battle_Lord]

Captain Awesome, on Aug 2 2009, 09:40 PM, said:

The game will last as long as we love and respect it.

Your are right

As long as we love and respect it, it will last forever

[Forge]

or at least until the last person on the main three forums (Duke4, AMC, DNR) dies from old age.

[High Treason]

Forge, on Aug 3 2009, 10:02 AM, said:

or at least until the last person on the main three forums (Duke4, AMC, DNR) dies from old age.

This is why we should pass it down to the next generations, on our death bed we make our children promise to play it every day, and that they will do the same with their children.

[corpy]

4 EveR Ofcoorz
love this game.

[Forge]

To me, most of you are the next generation so my job here is done. It's all on you now.

[Sangman]

Give it another 6 years. True many people like playing the game, but the actual modding community is what keeps it alive and say what you want but the amount of active modders is pretty small. I think if it weren't for EDuke32, the show would have been over years ago.

[Nemesis]

As long as we keep it ALIVE

[Sangman]

Keeping a game alive requires more than talking about keeping the game alive

[NNC]

I think when the next nuclear apocalypse or ice age hit mother earth.

[Danukem]

There has been a marked decline in the community in the last several months. First there was the almost complete stoppage of work on the HRP. This was partly due to the HRP reaching a milestone, but it's also partly due to people waiting for Polymer to be released. Unfortunately, this coincided with the forum at 3DR (which was the main connection between the community and the larger gaming public) being abandoned. It doesn't help that Polymer is still not released, and at this point I don't think releasing it is going to get a big response, because a lot of people have already gotten tired of waiting and drifted away, and those that haven't have been using pre-release builds of it.

In order for the community to survive in a robust way (i.e. more than just a few modders making stuff for each other) there has to be a steady influx of new players. These could be either "new" old players who are returning to Duke after a long absence, or genuinely new players who never tried the game before. Genuinely new players are more important in the long run, because there is only a finite and dwindling number of the other group who are going to keep coming back.

So how do we attract new players? The continued development of EDuke32, and the Polymer renderer in particular, will be a big help. But that needs to go hand-in-hand with the development of high quality projects that use EDuke32 enhancements. But even that is not enough. The projects have to be promoted effectively to reach new players.

[Jimmy]

You guys should really promote your mods on sites like Moddb. Especially if they are free. I think WGR2 should definitely get itself out there as it will attract a lot of players.

[Danukem]

Captain Awesome, on Sep 12 2009, 12:56 PM, said:

You guys should really promote your mods on sites like Moddb. Especially if they are free. I think WGR2 should definitely get itself out there as it will attract a lot of players.

There was a page for WGR2 on Mod DB, and WG updated it regularly. I don't know what happened to it. They deleted one of my pages once for some bs reason so they may have removed it.

[The Commander]

http://www.moddb.com/games/wgrealms-2

It's still there? When you are ready to release it let me know and I will make sure it gets front page news on moddb.com

[Gambini]

High Treason, on Aug 3 2009, 06:31 AM, said:

This is why we should pass it down to the next generations, on our death bed we make our children promise to play it every day, and that they will do the same with their children.

I´m already doing that, both my kids really love Duke Nukem. They make a row everytime i close the game.

[Kathy]

How do they feel about strippers?

[Gambini]

I dont use HRP and we always play user maps, the ones withot strippers

[The Commander]

Those girls in them bars in Duke I do not count as strippers as no strip club I have ever been to have women wearing tassels.

[Danukem]

The Commander, on Sep 12 2009, 09:58 PM, said:

http://www.moddb.com/games/wgrealms-2

It's still there?

Thanks. When I searched for it, I put a space between 'WG' and 'Realms' so it didn't come up.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I wasn't implying that it was gone. I was just saying you guys should make a big hullabaloo about it once its released, especially since it will be free/standalone.

[Danukem]

Captain Awesome, on Sep 14 2009, 01:38 PM, said:

I was just saying you guys should make a big hullabaloo about it once its released, especially since it will be free/standalone.

I agree. But I also think that people should find a way to promote their stuff long after it has been released. It may be old hat to us, but to the outside world, it's all new.

What I see as the main obstacle to having a larger player base is that the vast majority of Duke mods/TCs are not standalone. Getting a copy of Duke 3D is relatively easy, but in a world full of free entertainment, all it takes is a small inconvenience to stop people. We can have the best maps/mods/TCs on the planet, but if people have to pay $5 on a 12 year old game before they can play them, 99% of them won't bother. Well, okay, that's an exaggeration. If we really did have the best game content on the planet, a lot of people would pay $5 for it or more.

[NNC]

1000 days!

(1000th post on this subforum!)

[Bloodwolf806]

You guys seem to be missing out on the fact that George and Scott said that while 3DR no longer develops games, they still lisence IP's. Meaning there will be more Duke games in the future. Maybe even DNF and DB. But Duke is still around. He isn't dead. And he'll come back with a bang. Until then thought, it's D3D.

[Danukem]

Bloodwolf806, on Oct 4 2009, 10:10 PM, said:

You guys seem to be missing out on the fact that George and Scott said that while 3DR no longer develops games, they still lisence IP's. Meaning there will be more Duke games in the future. Maybe even DNF and DB. But Duke is still around. He isn't dead. And he'll come back with a bang. Until then thought, it's D3D.

As far as I'm concerned, we were talking about the survival of this community, which is centered around Duke 3D. There's no reason to suppose that the release of future Duke games will help in that regard. There have been several games featuring Duke released after Duke 3D, but none of them had the same impact or have spawned significant communities of their own.

[Kathy]

Still, without DNF there is less to discuss on Duke centered boards.

[OpenMaw]

You will doubtless end up with a Doom/Doom 3 type of scenario in the event of a new big duke game. It will probably be a good game in its own regard, maybe even awesome, but the learning curve will be quite steep, and the newer community just wont match the size or passion of the previous community, in regards to editing and ingenuity of course. Thats how im seeing it anyway.