Tim Willits, CCO of Saber, which bought 3D Realms, welcomed to 3DR Discord

Tim Willits, CCO of Saber, which bought 3D Realms, welcomed to 3DR Discord "Things can always get worse fren..."

jkas789

#1 Posted 26 January 2022 - 10:54 AM

In a announcement posted in the general thread of the 3D Realms discord server, Frederik Schreiber has welcomed the hiring of Tim Willits to 3D Realms.

To those who don't know who this guy is, he is an ex Id develper that has quite a spotty history. For starters he has claimed to come up with the idea of multiplayer maps later to be refuted by John Romero. He has also said that:

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"I'm all for that. If we could force people to always be connected when you play the game, and then have that be acceptable, awesome."

And last but not least he has been credited as the person who destroyed Id from within.

So, what do you guys think?

EDIT: made a little error on this guys surname in the OP title. If a mod could correct it that would be swell.

Mark

#2 Posted 26 January 2022 - 11:29 AM

He also claims it was he, not Al Gore that invented the internet.

This post has been edited by Mark: 26 January 2022 - 11:31 AM

Hank

#3 Posted 26 January 2022 - 12:09 PM

Help me out here, but who is 3D Realms?
Embracer bought it as it did Saber, the studio Tim W. worked with. It’s one family. Where it looks like Tim go demoted, to Reel Ms ??

Ninety-Six

#4 Posted 26 January 2022 - 01:07 PM

Honestly, I'm not quite sure how to feel. On the one hand he was allegedly a driving force between the breakup of classic id, supposedly engaging in sabotage, and seems to have a bit of an ego (at least Romero earned his ego, even if it was detrimental)...

But on the other hand, he is fairly good at level design, having the better Master Levels, and almost the entirety of Quake's shareware episode. So he's an asshole (allegedly), but a talented asshole.

Don't you love it when that happens?

gibfrag

Honored Donor

#5 Posted 26 January 2022 - 03:46 PM

The only good to come of this current iteration of 3DR's is that they published Ion Fury and a few other games they've published have turned out alright as well. Other than that, they've developed fairly mediocre titles on their own, announced several projects that have not gone anywhere really, and cockteased Duke4 with Duke Nukem related things for years (with no delivery) until Gearbox squished their balls over it. So I think Tim being a part of this 3DR's will likely lead to little to nothing different in the long run.

jkas789

#6 Posted 26 January 2022 - 07:30 PM

There was some conversation about that actually in the past few days on the duke4 discord. It is really sad that all 3D Realms really has going for it are Ion Fury and Ghostrunner.

Wrath and Graven are in dev hell and are currently hiring mappers and other positions, Kingpin and and SiN are vaporware, ROTT remastered was dropped and shipped to nu Apogee, Core Decay is yet another bOoMeR ShOoTeR iMeRsSiOn sIm and Combustion which I can't for the life of me know what the hell that game even is about but it has a racoon that is not bait for a future furry fandom. Bombshell is that retarded but well meaning big brother of Ion Fury that they are "so going to patch guys and make it the best game evar!" but nu 3D Realms is quietly pushing it behind the shed with the hopes everyone forgets about it so that they can put it out in peace.

The only game that gives me some confidence is Cultic, which is a blatant copy of Blood with more. Which IMO is not that bad because honestly we need more game based on other FPS other than fucking Doom and Quake (I swear everyone is just pushing their shitty doom and quake mod out this days).

Honestly, what is going on in 3D Realms?

MusicallyInspired

The Sarien Encounter

#7 Posted 26 January 2022 - 09:35 PM

It's interesting to me that Scott Miller has recently posted a writeup clearing up confusion about what and who Apogee is at this point. He says the rights to the Apogee name reverted back to him and 3DR is now a completely separate entity. An excerpt:

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Then, last year two key things changed:

[1] The rights to the Apogee name were returned to myself and my Apogee partner, Terry Nagy. Apogee was then renamed to Apogee Entertainment.

[2] Later in the year, 3D Realms was purchased by the Embracer Group.

So, now I'm no longer with the Denmark group, and the people running and managing the new 3D Realms currently have no connection to the past history of Apogee. You won't find their name in any credits for games from the 90's or 2000's, and they had nothing to do with the making or the release of any of those classic hit games.

It sounds like he saw what was coming and wanted no part of it and wanted to get ahead of this to make it clear who Apogee is (him) and that he is not involved with anything to do with 3DR anymore. Just as well. He was always better at pushing indies anyway. So if what you say is true, does that mean the ROTT remaster is now in the hands of Scott?

Also, he mentions that Descent was a 3DR title before they sold it to Interplay. I didn't know this. That's pretty cool. Apogee and Scott Miller had a hand in so much of the best of gaming back then.

This post has been edited by MusicallyInspired: 26 January 2022 - 09:37 PM