[ETPC]

So, we know the old builds of DNF exist. Even the 1998 ones. Sure, they may not be 'playable' but they are worth preserving just as much as the more complete 2001/2003 builds. This is already known. Fred sent all the assets to Randy and Zenimax and whoever else demanded their pound of contractually protected flesh they did nothing to make.

But what happens when the hard drives die? The code rots, the assets decay? The cd's stop working?

Does anyone know if Fred made sure to preserve all the 3DR stuff before he sent it off to the IP landlords? Obviously they can't show it (legally), but I would sleep better at night knowing that Frank Cifaldi or PtoPOnline has builds archived in the correct manner.

[DevoNukem]

ETPC, on 18 August 2020 - 09:54 PM, said:

So, we know the old builds of DNF exist. Even the 1998 ones. Sure, they may not be 'playable' but they are worth preserving just as much as the more complete 2001/2003 builds. This is already known. Fred sent all the assets to Randy and Zenimax and whoever else demanded their pound of contractually protected flesh they did nothing to make.

But what happens when the hard drives die? The code rots, the assets decay? The cd's stop working?

Does anyone know if Fred made sure to preserve all the 3DR stuff before he sent it off to the IP landlords? Obviously they can't show it (legally), but I would sleep better at night knowing that Frank Cifaldi or PtoPOnline has builds archived in the correct manner.

All I have to say is:Please don't.
Threads talking about old DNF builds, they always start and end the same old fuckin' way. It starts with someone asking about their status or whatever, then it just devolves into a "LET'S CHAT SHIT ABOUT RANDY KEKEKKEEK" thread. It's getting fucking stale at this point, so please don't start it again.

Thank you.

[Lunick]

Just because the builds are not in the hands of the public, doesn't mean they are not preserved.

[ETPC]

Lunick, on 19 August 2020 - 02:00 AM, said:

Just because the builds are not in the hands of the public, doesn't mean they are not preserved.

That's all I want to know then! Thank you!

[Kristian Joensen]

ETPC, on 18 August 2020 - 09:54 PM, said:

So, we know the old builds of DNF exist. Even the 1998 ones. Sure, they may not be 'playable' but they are worth preserving just as much as the more complete 2001/2003 builds. This is already known. Fred sent all the assets to Randy and Zenimax and whoever else demanded their pound of contractually protected flesh they did nothing to make.

But what happens when the hard drives die? The code rots, the assets decay? The cd's stop working?

Does anyone know if Fred made sure to preserve all the 3DR stuff before he sent it off to the IP landlords? Obviously they can't show it (legally), but I would sleep better at night knowing that Frank Cifaldi or PtoPOnline has builds archived in the correct manner.

Zenimax? What have they got do with DNF?

[DNSKILL5]

The old builds will more than likely never be released to the public, or at least not for a long time from now. The files have been preserved for all this time now already, so they're not going to vanish, and you can count on that.

[Outtagum]

ETPC, on 18 August 2020 - 09:54 PM, said:

So, we know the old builds of DNF exist. Even the 1998 ones. Sure, they may not be 'playable' but they are worth preserving just as much as the more complete 2001/2003 builds. This is already known. Fred sent all the assets to Randy and Zenimax and whoever else demanded their pound of contractually protected flesh they did nothing to make.

But what happens when the hard drives die? The code rots, the assets decay? The cd's stop working?

Does anyone know if Fred made sure to preserve all the 3DR stuff before he sent it off to the IP landlords? Obviously they can't show it (legally), but I would sleep better at night knowing that Frank Cifaldi or PtoPOnline has builds archived in the correct manner.

Ask again in 10 more years.

[Sanek]

Lunick is right about builds being preserved, only in private.


Lots of people's still dreaming about old builds being released, and I think that whoever's in charge of builds must release at least 1 build to the public, which would be a great sort of follow-up to Lameduke, the old Duke3D build.
On the other hand, just because there's builds/betas/alphas of the some games doesn't mean that it's a common practice to release such things in public. When you look at all AAA games, there's only a fraction of titles that have builds available for download.
Of course, DNF's builds is kinda important ones - perhaps that's the most important build in the history of video games - and they deserved being released more than anything else.

I'm not asking for builds or whine about the whole thing. That's just my opinion.

[ETPC]

Kristian Joensen, on 19 August 2020 - 09:49 AM, said:

Zenimax? What have they got do with DNF?

Prey.

[Kristian Joensen]

ETPC, on 19 August 2020 - 02:04 PM, said:

Prey.

Yes, we all know that. But he was talking about DNF....

[ETPC]

Right, but I'm concerned for *all* the builds from 3DR. DNF is at the top of that list, obv!