
Why are we still so interested in DNF?
#31 Posted 02 January 2020 - 11:56 AM
#32 Posted 02 January 2020 - 07:22 PM
Commando Nukem, on 01 January 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:
Those were the good old days.
Commando Nukem, on 01 January 2020 - 03:16 PM, said:
Not a mystery. Failure to commit to release.
#35 Posted 27 April 2020 - 10:50 PM
#37 Posted 28 April 2020 - 12:15 AM
Tea Monster, on 27 April 2020 - 10:50 PM, said:
His argumentation is one of the most stupid things I've read in a long time. It is on flat-earthers level of reality denial.
#38 Posted 28 April 2020 - 08:37 AM
This post has been edited by gemeaux333: 28 April 2020 - 08:37 AM
#39 Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:44 AM
necroslut, on 27 April 2020 - 11:33 PM, said:
He is wrong to think that's why the game tanked though. This isn't the first time I've seen him say something like that.
Good reviews can't save a bad game. DNF may have gotten bad reviews from people who "couldn't remember where Duke came from", but unfortunately for JSJ's ego people who could remember where Duke came from gave it even worse reviews.
This post has been edited by MARTYR: 21 May 2020 - 11:45 AM
#40 Posted 24 May 2020 - 09:21 AM
remember this?
Duke Nukem Forever wasn't reviewed fairly
This post has been edited by Lazy Dog: 24 May 2020 - 09:38 AM
#41 Posted 24 May 2020 - 09:42 AM
Lazy Dog, on 24 May 2020 - 09:21 AM, said:
I mean the video game industry is one more corrupted field where journalists occasionally get sacked for doing their job with honesty if that compromises the wrong person's business, so I wouldn't be too surprised. Shooting the messenger is always a regrettable, but sadly common practice used to discredit what's left of sincerity in a world so obsessed with numbers so that in the end, only numbers are left. There are popular videos on YouTube that expose a certain console manufacturer's ties with the local mafia that would indulge in kidnapping people's relatives; blaming the bad press on the reviewer isn't the most shady nor the most exceptional reaction from companies out there.
(and of course hot hashtags such as #millenials are so convenient to drop when it comes to redirecting hate towards a particular entity or group that's totally external)
This post has been edited by ck3D: 24 May 2020 - 09:46 AM
#42 Posted 25 May 2020 - 08:35 AM
#43 Posted 26 May 2020 - 06:55 AM
MARTYR, on 21 May 2020 - 11:44 AM, said:
Good reviews can't save a bad game. DNF may have gotten bad reviews from people who "couldn't remember where Duke came from", but unfortunately for JSJ's ego people who could remember where Duke came from gave it even worse reviews.
Sure, but the thing is a lot of reviewers (the vast majority, it seemed) slammed it for all the wrong reasons, and if there was any praise it was also for the wrong reasons. A pretty common sentiment in reviews was "It's a solid follow-up to Duke 3D, but that's not a thing we need today. Also the graphics are bad." That goes for both mainstream magazines and YouTube "alt-reviewers".
This post has been edited by necroslut: 26 May 2020 - 06:56 AM
#44 Posted 26 May 2020 - 08:29 AM
necroslut, on 26 May 2020 - 06:55 AM, said:

#45 Posted 26 May 2020 - 10:47 AM
necroslut, on 26 May 2020 - 06:55 AM, said:
How is that any different than what I said?
#46 Posted 26 May 2020 - 05:37 PM
Of course there are always some extreme cases but in general, I wouldn't say the problem when it comes to nowadays' audience being lukewarm to Duke's current image has to do with said audience moreso than it has to do with the IP owners who didn't know any better for one of the most awaited games ever than to pull a mummy out of its sarcophagus and give it some quick make-up based on instructional videos from YouTube vloggers. There are modern works out there that do successfully pull off the blunt nihilist as a bleak social critique shtick with both provocation and critical acclaim regardless of the people's possible political inclinations, individual beliefs and personal backgrounds, just like Duke 3D did at the time (yes it was controversial so to speak, but in the end the game still made the rounds). Attributing the relative failure of the character to politics is just an excuse for having forgotten to make sure it kept raising the right questions, in reality some people were already getting upset over boob-shaped pixels back in 1996, so here nothing has changed but the emphasis being put on that crowd to distract from how what we now have is a mere Holo-Duke - the charger of which has been lost for who knows how many years.