[Seb Luca]

It seems that this feature of Build is little, or not known at all. So, here is how I proceed to assign a specific angle to a sector, or a group of sectors :



1 - Just select your target with [Alt Gr].





2 - Rotate the mouse wheel while holding down the following buttons : [Shift Left] + [Ctrl Left] + [Alt] + [Left mouse button].
You will then see a small textbox at the bottom of the screen. Enter the desired angle (can be made negative by pressing [-] after writing the number).
If sprites are inside the selection, their angle will be automatically adapted.





3 - It is done ! You just still have to validate by deselecting with [Alt Gr].

[Mark]

Thats a whole lot of mouse buttons and keys to press all at once. I use a simpler way. After selecting the area to be rotated, I press < or > to rotate 90 degrees at a time or press shift and < or > for more precision.

[Seb Luca]

Mark, on 01 September 2019 - 05:29 AM, said:

I use a simpler way

I'm sorry, but you are wrong : we are not talking about the exact same action

[Forge]

While it works fairly well, in some "rare" cases it will still warp and shift sectors, walls, and sprites if the amount of rotation is large and/or the density of the items inside the rotated sector is high. Especially using older versions of mapster that have the proper blocking-wall color scheme for the visually impaired.

It's still a good trick to know if parts of your floorplan don't align with the mapster grid.


I think the "easier" way is to select your sector / room with right-shift, then hold down the left shift key & the right mouse button. It should make the sector rotate by dragging it with the mouse.
Having to know the angle to type it in seems like it may involve a lot of trial and error.

[High Treason]

Why all the keys? You only have to select the sector and press [ALT][<] or [>] to trigger the textbox. The symbol makes no difference and you have to input a negative number to rotate in the opposite direction.

[Forge]

High Treason,
does it work cleanly for you? Which version of mapster are you using?
I had "issues" recently with warping. I could take a simple sector & flip it around well enough, but once I started adding vetices to the outer walls and adding sectors off those points inside the room, the outer walls would start losing their straight lines & it would then affect the things inside the sector.

[Seb Luca]

Note à moi-même : penser à faire vœux de silence x)

[Forge]

Seb Luca, on 01 September 2019 - 08:04 AM, said:

Note à moi-même : penser à faire vœux de silence x)

It's good information.

But I'm having issues with r4525. Sometimes it executes flawlessly, sometimes (most of the time) it shoves all the sprites into the walls and makes sector lines cross each other. It depends on the angle.

[Seb Luca]

Forge, on 01 September 2019 - 08:10 AM, said:

It's good information.
But I'm having issues with r4525. Sometimes it executes flawlessly, sometimes (most of the time) it shoves all the sprites into the walls and makes sector lines cross each other. It depends on the angle.

Thank you
Your problem is strange I do not see that with the r6969 ...
Maybe you could have a newer installation in a VM, and that you just use to rotate the sectors?

[Forge]

Not practical, but I'm willing to update, as long as it isn't to a version with all the lame sprite colors & the blocking walls that look like non-blocking walls

[Seb Luca]

+1 for the sprite colors in the list : it is annoying

[High Treason]

Mapster build 4593 here. The function mostly works, but I've rarely used values outside of friendlier numbers, like 64, 128, 192 and so on. I used this rotate function for prefab furniture a lot in my levels and it never really seemed to have a problem. Rotating by sight without inputting a value seems to be less reliable, I can't say I recall ever trying to rotate complex sectors with either method though, my levels don't tend to have diagonals in them.

[Mark]

Seb Luca, on 01 September 2019 - 05:48 AM, said:

I'm sorry, but you are wrong : we are not talking about the exact same action

What is the difference between what we are doing? We both rotated selected sectors and sprites to a specified degree value. But instead of punching in a number in the box I held down the 2 keys to get to that same degree of rotation.

[Seb Luca]

@High Treason : I think the misalignment problem occurs if you change the orientation by Shift + mouse left + mouse wheel.

@Mark : The difference here is the notion of parameter. And when the angle is large, is it not faster to enter the value directly? Especially for a chain treatment?

[Forge]

There's more than one way to skin a cat. Some knives are sharper than others. Some people don't mind the dull blade if the elk antler handle feels good in their hand.

[Seb Luca]

Forge, on 01 September 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

There's more than one way to skin a cat. Some knives are sharper than others. Some people don't mind the dull blade if the elk antler handle feels good in their hand.

Waw ! Your analogy is zoo cool!