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Ghostbusters except possibly better?  "Coming in 2020"

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Jimmy said: " Leftists have to hijack culture and block dissenting viewpoints, because they're never able to win in a fair competition of ideas."
Truer words have seldom been spoken.
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Netflix is hit and miss. The new Lost in Space series is actually quite well done and wholesome, from what I've seen so far. Still not enough to get me to renew my account I cancelled a couple years ago though.

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Friend of mine sent this to me lol.

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View PostMark, on 19 January 2019 - 02:29 PM, said:

Jimmy said: " Leftists have to hijack culture and block dissenting viewpoints, because they're never able to win in a fair competition of ideas."
Truer words have seldom been spoken.


I'm not sure if it's that, or if it's fact that it would never even occur to them to not block dissenting viewpoints. Shutting down opposition in every way possible is the default response to opposition. Think of how a small child behaves -- they are certainly not interested in hearing opposing viewpoints; you have to actually learn to value the freedom of others before it would even occur to you to not shut them down.

The idea of a "fair competition" is itself alien to the leftist way of thinking. Competition has winners and losers -- it's an engine for inequality. So, competition itself is antithetical to outcome equality.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I doubt that most of them even think it through far enough to conclude that they need to avoid a fair debate because they would lose it. They are opposed to any debate in the first place and will happily shut it down whether they think they would win or not.
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"Why engage with anyone else when I'm already right?"

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I could tell you more about lefties, just as Nicolas Sarkozy said in 2012 (the true french president, although he is no longer in charge) and it was premonitory :



“Que resterait-il de la capacité d’influence d’une France qui se retrouverait affaiblie politiquement, économiquement et moralement ?

Cette gauche qui fait la morale aux autres mais qui ne s’applique jamais à elle-même ses leçons de morale. Cette gauche qui déteste l’argent, sauf quand c’est le sien. Cette gauche qui condamne la réussite, sauf quand c’est la sienne. Cette gauche qui ne passe rien aux autres mais qui se permet tout. Cette gauche qui se permet de trier entre les bons français, ceux qui pensent comme elle, et les mauvais Français, ceux qui ne pensent pas comme elle. Cette gauche, c’est le contraire de l’idéal républicain.

La gauche donne des leçons de république, mais la république, la gauche l’a abîmée. La Ve république, qui est pourtant la plus belle expression institutionnelle et politique jamais donnée à l’idéal républicain… écoutez le candidat de la gauche, il rêve d’un retour à la IVe république. D’un retour à la république de l’impuissance. L’idée qu’il se fait du rôle du président de la république, c’est celle d’un président qui ne prend plus aucune responsabilité, qui ne nomme plus personne, qui ne décide de rien et qui à chaque fois qu’il y a un problème réunit une commission.

Le candidat de gauche veut bien présider, il ne veut pas gouverner. Parce que gouverner c’est trop difficile et c’est trop risqué. A quoi sert d’élire un président au suffrage universel, comme l’a voulu le général de Gaulle, si ce président ne gouverne pas, si ce président n’est pas responsable, si ce président ne s’engage pas, si ce président ne pense à rien, ne croit en rien, et au final ne fait rien. Ni rêve, ni propositions, ni décisions.

Augmenter les impôts dans des proportions démentielles pour payer quoi, la folie dépensière. Et pas simplement les impôts des riches, non les impôts de tout le monde. Les impôts des classes moyennes. Les impôts des ouvriers. Les impôts des salariés. Avec les socialistes, c’est l’argent qu’ils n’ont pas qu’ils dépensent et c’est les Français qui règlent l’addition.

C’est toujours pareil avec les socialistes, ils font des promesses à tout le monde. Les lendemains vont chanter… et puis quand ils ont fini de distribuer ce qu’ils n’ont pas, quand la faillite se profile, quand la confiance s’effondre, ils se rallient en catastrophe à l’austérité. Dans les années 1980 il a fallu deux ans pour que la situation devienne intenable. Aujourd’hui, il faudrait deux jours. Deux jours d’illusion pour des années de souffrance. Deux jours qui chantent pour des années de sacrifices. Deux jours de mensonges et des années pour régler la facture. Voilà le projet socialiste.”

Do I need to translate ?

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I was thinking more along the line of Saul Alinsky who wrote the leftest "bible" rules for radicals. Modern day Dems praise the book and use it's tactics every day including destroy the messenger, do not debate them.

But enough of that or this thread will get thrown in the outhouse too.

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For this Ghostbuster sequel, the approach here is very close to the one which was used for the animated series Extreme Ghostbusters :

https://en.wikipedia...me_Ghostbusters
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#39

That show totally slipped past me.

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View PostMerlijn, on 19 January 2019 - 01:14 PM, said:

It would be better if all that effort went into something new and original, but ya know.. that's not going to happen.

Why change a winning strategy?
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Leslie Jones has gone on record to say this is "something Trump would do."

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Reitman, the son of Ghostbusters authentic director Ivan Reitman, beforehand defined that he plans to broaden on the unique plot laid out by his father.

“This is the subsequent chapter within the authentic franchise,” he stated. “I’ve a lot respect for what Paul created with these sensible actresses, and would like to see extra tales from them. However, this new film will comply with the trajectory of the unique movie.”

View PostMusicallyInspired, on 20 January 2019 - 08:45 AM, said:

Leslie Jones has gone on record to say this is "something Trump would do."


“So insulting,” she started in a tweet. “Like fuck us. We dint rely. It’s like one thing trump would do. (Trump voice)”Gonna redo ghostbusteeeeers, higher with males, can be big. Those girls ain’t ghostbusteeeeers” ugh so annoying. Such a dick transfer. And I don’t give fuck I’m saying one thing!!”

so classy.

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View PostX-Vector, on 20 January 2019 - 02:38 AM, said:

Why change a winning strategy?


The weird thing.. most of those reboots/sequels aren't even that succesful.
The 2016 Ghostbusters tanked, Robocop, Terminator Genesys and Total recall didn't do so well either. The new Predator film also fopped (and rightfully so). Even Star Wars managed to produce a flop.

The positive thing about that.. maybe studio's will learn that nostalgia alone isn't enough and there needs to be a good story first. Maybe.

EDIT: to counterbalance my negativity I'll say there are a few notable exceptions. The recent Into the spider verse was pretty damn good, for example.
And that was also made by Sony. Who knew?

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If people continue to put on their nostalgia glasses before seeing a sequel or reboot they will not be satisfied. Just enjoy the movie. Its better than nothing. The exception to that is that horrible Catwoman movie with Halle Berry. ;) That would have been better off not being filmed.
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View PostMerlijn, on 21 January 2019 - 09:07 AM, said:

The weird thing.. most of those reboots/sequels aren't even that succesful.

some would do better, if they weren't trying to re-write history
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Actually you guys are thinking about this stuff from a Western perspective.

All that matters is if a film makes money in China.

‘Terminator Genisys’ Smashes Records at Chinese Box Office
China Box Office: 'RoboCop' Rides 3D Wave to Top of Chinese Charts

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Sequels, prequels and spin-offs will always be better than reboots and remakes !

There are several sequels that happens several decades later and succeed :
-Tron Legacy
-Mad Max Fury Road
-Jumanji Return to the Jungle

There are a few more, but their names doesn't come to my mind...

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View PostMark, on 21 January 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

If people continue to put on their nostalgia glasses before seeing a sequel or reboot they will not be satisfied. Just enjoy the movie. Its better than nothing.


No it's not. The Last Jedi is not better than nothing. I can't enjoy something when it sucks.

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Well then I feel sorry for you that you set expectations so high that you can't enjoy a movie unless its the best that ever was or nitpick it apart. I go to the theatre every weekend and sometimes twice a week. I don't set my expectations so high or work myself into a frenzy of anticipation or have a fanboyish devotion to every detail of a franchise and so I don't get let down and I'm able to enjoy most movies. Its nothing against you. Its just a personal difference between us.

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No. This isn't nitpick territory or not meeting high expectations. It has nothing to do with that. It's not just "could have been a lot better". It's "abysmally unforgivably bad". This is a whole other class of disappointed. The Last Jedi is a legitimately terrible film. Not merely disappointing.

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View PostMark, on 21 January 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

Well then I feel sorry for you that you set expectations so high that you can't enjoy a movie unless its the best that ever was or nitpick it apart. I go to the theatre every weekend and sometimes twice a week. I don't set my expectations so high or work myself into a frenzy of anticipation or have a fanboyish devotion to every detail of a franchise and so I don't get let down and I'm able to enjoy most movies. Its nothing against you. Its just a personal difference between us.


Last Jedi had bad cinematography, illogical writing, bad characters, uninspired designs, idiotic characters, humor ONLY adressed at kids below 12, bad pacing, a horrible plot and most of all it rendered everything in the Star Wars canon useless ... so in this case: "nothing" is much better than Episode XIII.

I would even go as far and say that "nothing" would have been much better than "Solo", because people with a bit of imagination had far mor instersting and exciting version of Han Solos past in their minds than the boring, uninspired crap that got delivered. One has to forget about the movie and revert it back to nothing to erase that crap out of your mind when watching the other movies with Han Solo in it. The same with Last Jedi and the other movies ... nothing would work, if you know that Episode XIII exists: neither the plot or suspense or the relief at the end of the other movies, nor the laws in the Star Wars universe as a whole.

Episode VII could have worked in a proper context (i.e. if XIII had delivered that), but the opposite was true in the end. I prefer nothing then.

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*VIII

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Disney Star Wars films are objectively worse than anything George Lucas ever did

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You made my point. Everything has to blend with the rest of the franchise. Certain scenes or plots don't fit with previous movies and that makes it shitty to you. Always the comparisons. If it doesn't flow perfectly it's shit. My knowledge of the minutia of Stars is so minimal that I am able to enjoy each movie that comes out. I have no idea how many movies in the franchise, all their names, their order, etc... Ignorance is bliss in this case. It allows me to like movies that others think were better off not being made. Yay for me.

I'm not oblivious to some of their shortcomings but they don't affect me nearly as much as some of you guys. For instance, whichever movie it was, why didn't Laura Dern's character use a droid to pilot the ship on a suicide mission. Absolutely foolish writing. But I say meh, the movie was still good.

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Sounds to me like you're the kind of guy who would eat a 2G1C ice cream cone blindfolded and enjoy it. "Well I didn't see it come out of an asshole so subjectively I choose it's not actually shit."

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:lol:

I guess I have more of the ability to mindlessly enjoy a movie without overanalysing it.

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Judging each trilogy on its own merits, independently of other trilogies, makes some sense (but even then, one ought to at least be consistent with the rules of the established universe and make character arcs progress in a logical way). But judging the second part of a trilogy independently of the first part, does not make sense. TLJ doesn't just shit on the trilogies that came before by raping Luke's character etc., it also shits on what was set up in TFA, making the trilogy that it is part of incoherent. Who is Snoke? Doesn't matter, he's dead, fuck you audience. Who are Rei's parent's? Doesn't matter, they were nobody, fuck you audience. Also let's just have Luke die --after being completely out of character-- because he got tuckered out from using the force, as one does. So fuck you audience again after the previous movie made such a big deal out of finding him. And that's not even going into the internal problems with the movie that would make it bad even when viewed in isolation. People who defend TLJ always end up saying something along the lines of "my expectations were super low and I don't give a fuck" -- but if you think about it, that's not a defense of the film at all, it's simply defense of you enjoying the film. But enjoying a film is not the same thing as a film being good. I can get drunk or give myself a lobotomy and have a good old time watching a shitty, stupid movie but that doesn't make it good.
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Trooper Dan said: " but if you think about it, that's not a defense of the film at all, it's simply defense of you enjoying the film."

And thats the point I'm trying to make. How I feel I'm lucky to be able to enjoy a film while others get so upset about the details.
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View PostMark, on 21 January 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

And thats the point I'm trying to make. How I feel I'm lucky to be able to enjoy a film while others get so upset about the details.

Sounds to me like the point you're trying to make is that nobody should dislike a film that completely derails already set characters, history, and story line
(on top of other shitty aspects or forced agenda)

View PostMark, on 21 January 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

Well then I feel sorry for you
you set expectations so high
you can't enjoy a movie
nitpick it apart
don't work myself into a frenzy
or have a fanboyish devotion to every detail


Some people enjoy continuity in their sagas.
Kind of one of the reasons Ghostbusters 2016 flopped.
(among other things)

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View PostMusicallyInspired, on 21 January 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

*VIII

;)


Oops. :)

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