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Rednukem - Redneck Rampage port

User is offline   NightFright 

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#211

Take the soundtrack files in ogg format, zip them, rename to .dat.
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View PostNightFright, on 30 December 2019 - 11:52 AM, said:

Take the soundtrack files in ogg format, zip them, rename to .dat.

The GOG collection doesn't include soundtrack files in any format. There is an iso file (which they rename into a .gog file).

The instructions for ripping audio from that file are for Linux only.

So again, what is the best way to rip those music files on Windows?
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User is offline   K1n9_Duk3 

#213

Copy or rename REDNECK.INST as REDNECK.CUE and use that to mount the disc image in a virtual CD drive (or burn a disc from the image). Then use whatever you would normally use to rip the audio tracks. Rinse and repeat for "Rides Again" (RRRAGAIN.INST -> RRRAGAIN.CUE).

I haven't tested it myself, but the .INST files should be standard cue sheet files and you should have no problems mounting the image or burning a disc from them
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View PostK1n9_Duk3, on 01 January 2020 - 01:33 PM, said:

Copy or rename REDNECK.INST as REDNECK.CUE and use that to mount the disc image in a virtual CD drive (or burn a disc from the image). Then use whatever you would normally use to rip the audio tracks. Rinse and repeat for "Rides Again" (RRRAGAIN.INST -> RRRAGAIN.CUE).

I haven't tested it myself, but the .INST files should be standard cue sheet files and you should have no problems mounting the image or burning a disc from them

I normally rip physical music CDs with CDEx, but it won't let me rip a mounted iso. It will only talk to a real physical optical drive. So then I Googled for how to rip a music CD looking for a recommended program these days, and the first two pages of search results were all Windows Media Player, which puts DRM into the MP3 files. I even more specifically looked for how to rip from a mounted iso, and search results were still telling me to use Windows Media Player. So I still don't really have much of a solution.

It would be nice if the source port could just play from the ISO.
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User is offline   WolfmanFP 

#215

I recommend CueToOgg, it can extract music from CUE/BIN images, and converts them to OGG: https://github.com/h...mucker/CueToOgg
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User is offline   K1n9_Duk3 

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So burning the image to disc (which would probably also allow you to intall the game on a real DOS/Win9x PC should you ever want to do that) and ripping the music tracks from the burned disc is not much of a solution? You wouldn't even have to "waste" a disc, you could just use a rewritable one (if you have one)...

My copy of Nero Burning ROM 8 has an option to save tracks, which allows me to rip audio tracks of any CD, includung mounted images, as audio files (WAV, OGG and a few other formats). But that one's rather old. The version of Windows Media Player on my Win10 system can rip CD audio and save it in WAV format, so that should also be a valid option if you have another tool at hand that can convert WAV to OGG. I know that Audacity can take care of that, but there are probably some dedicated utilities that make it easier to convert a bunch of files without having to load and save each file individually.
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User is offline   NightFright 

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#217

You can also use the music packs I have prepared for myself, I doubt there is a problem sharing them.

Redneck Rampage Music Pack (DAT, 59.4 MB)
Rides Again Music Pack (DAT, 35.8 MB)

I am running these as follows:
1) Place both music files in a "music" subdir inside of the Rednukem folder
2) In the "music" subdir create two def files, redneck.def and rides.def.

redneck.def:
loadgrp music/redneck_music.dat


rides.def:
loadgrp music/rides_music.dat


3) In the Rednukem root dir (where the executable is), place a text file named redneck.grpinfo with the following code (CRC/size based on GOG release):

grpinfo
{
    	name       "Redneck Rampage"
	defname    "music/redneck.def"
    	size       141174222
    	crc        0x19D9BC79
	flags      GAMEFLAG_RR
    	dependency 0
}

grpinfo
{
    	name       "Redneck Rampage: Rides Again"
	defname    "music/rides.def"
    	size       191798609
    	crc        0x958018C6
	flags      GAMEFLAG_RR
    	dependency 0
}

grpinfo
{
    	name       "Suckin' Grits on Route 66"
    	scriptname "game66.con"
	defname    "music/redneck.def"
    	size       18211915
    	crc        0xA88E7022
	flags      GAMEFLAG_RR
    	dependency 0x19D9BC79
}

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User is offline   Master O 

#218

 NightFright, on 03 January 2020 - 02:24 AM, said:

You can also use the music packs I have prepared for myself, I doubt there is a problem sharing them....


I would also recommend creating an issue on https://github.com/n...NRedneck/issues with these instructions so everyone will know how to set up music for Redneck Rampage.

This post has been edited by Master O: 03 January 2020 - 07:38 AM

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User is offline   Hendricks266 

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 Master O, on 03 January 2020 - 07:34 AM, said:

I would also recommend creating an issue on https://github.com/n...NRedneck/issues with these instructions so everyone will know how to set up music for Redneck Rampage.

That repository is archived. Rednukem lives in the NBlood repository along with PCExhumed now.

In any case these instructions are not "the way" to set up the music, but they look like a good temporary way to make launching the game easier until the port can do this job by itself.

Their userfriendliness could be improved quite a bit though. Instead of requiring the user to download two files and create a bunch of text files manually, it should be a single download that when unzipped to the Rednukem folder Just Works.

The size of those music packs seems awfully small. How low are the quality settings of those ogg files?
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User is offline   NightFright 

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#220

I think I took those tracks straight from the bonus downloads of the GOG release. Quality is probably not the best, but I don't have the original disks to rip the music again. Anyway, for pure gaming purposes the quality should be sufficient. Only if you want to listen to the music outside of the game you may notice it could be better.

Early next week I will recompile the music so it will contain the grpinfo file plus the entire music folder for a drag-n-drop solution. Again it will only work with the GOG release unless original releases use the same groupfiles with identical checksums. Done, see below.

This post has been edited by NightFright: 04 January 2020 - 02:41 PM

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User is offline   Poorchop 

#221

I just wanted to say thanks for your work on this. It plays so much more smoothly compared to running it in DOSBox and it's a huge treat to see more Build Engine games receiving proper source ports. I'm not only excited for Redneck, but for Powerslave as well and I hope that these ports bring more attention to these games.
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User is offline   Phredreeke 

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but I don't have the original disks to rip the music again.


Unlike the GOG release of Blood, Redneck Rampage has the game's soundtracks at full quality, just mount the disc image and rip the CDDA tracks on it
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User is offline   NightFright 

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#223

I got short-notice access to my laptop, so I have created the easy-to-use release of the soundtrack already:

Rednukem Music Packs (zip, 95.1 MB)

Instructions are much simpler now:
- Unzip rednukem_music.zip contents to your Rednukem dir
- Profit

I deleted the previously posted two music packs again since my Mega account storage is not unlimited and I need every MB I can get.

This post has been edited by NightFright: 04 January 2020 - 02:39 PM

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User is offline   Master O 

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View PostPhredreeke, on 04 January 2020 - 02:31 PM, said:

Unlike the GOG release of Blood, Redneck Rampage has the game's soundtracks at full quality, just mount the disc image and rip the CDDA tracks on it


What programs specifically rip the audio from a mounted disc image?
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User is offline   Phredreeke 

#225

On Windows? I use foobar. On Linux/MacOS? Beats me
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User is offline   NightFright 

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#226

Is there an equivalent to eduke.con in Rednukem? (Or is it actually still supported without any rename?)

This post has been edited by NightFright: 14 February 2020 - 12:13 AM

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User is online   Nuke.YKT 

#227

No, it will load game.con for Duke and RR games and nam.con/ww2gi.con for Nam/Ww2gi (or game.con as fallback)
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User is offline   NightFright 

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#228

I see. I was asking since I was trying to run stuff like the Duke Fixes or Voxel Pack with it. I realized that the modified GAME.CON by Darkus doesn't work (probably uses EDuke32-specific code) and eduke.con from Voxel Pack isn't parsed, i.e. no refined Freezer ammo, HoloDuke or voxel rotations (unless rotations can be enabled in a different way like in DukeGDX). I would like to make the packs as compatible as possible. Duke Fixes works if you just delete game.con from the zipfile.

This post has been edited by NightFright: 14 February 2020 - 12:32 AM

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#229

I have tried this port for first time and I really like it! I read that's basically an accurate Duke3D/RR port using original codebase backed up by EDuke32 tech, so it will be interesting to play or just test various user maps and compare them with EDuke32 (assuming Rednukem can run most EDuke32 maps or is it limited to maps until 2010 or so? I mean I'm sure TROR and Polymer maps will be out of question here, which is why I'm asking), since EDuke32 has been going a lot of changes as of lately and it would be nice to have a backup port. Right now I only watched the intro demos and I found a couple of issues while running Rednukem r2452 (32-bit build) with Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition:

-Messages don't seem to appear at all during demo playback (I tried pressing F8 to enable in case they were disabled but nothing happened)
-When I went to options menu, the text was misaligned to right (see screenshot, may be because I was running at 1024x768 resolution and not widescreen)
-Pressing TAB brings up the demo progress bar instead of automap (may be intended here but I remember in DOS Duke3D you could check automap even during demos)

I will attach my rednukem log file since I also noticed a strange error:

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debug: DwmGetCompositionTimingInfo() FAILED! HRESULT: 0x80263001 (Unknown error)


I also tested 32-bit OpenGL mode and it seems to be fine, I don't get the black screen bug like in EDuke32, which I reported here:
https://forums.duke4...ack-screen-bug/

I will test more tomorrow.
Attached File  rednukem.log (2.41K)
Number of downloads: 1
Attached File  rednukem_glitch.png (74.21K)
Number of downloads: 9
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