Is It Time To Spank Gearbox?
#61 Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:47 PM
#62 Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:56 PM
Komenja, on 31 December 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:
Then you agree with me. Space marines and the likes can only do what they do because they wear power armor. Under the armor, there's a common person. On the other hand, Duke needs only to wear jeans and a tank top because he is not a common person and he doesn't need physical protection.
It's like the difference between Iron Man and Superman. Take off Iron Man's armor and you get... sure, a genius, philanthropist, whatever, but Tony Stark wouldn't fare well if he went into combat wearing only spandex. Superman, on the other hand, can afford to do just that.
Komenja, on 31 December 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:
Most of what's written there is utter bullshit because there's nothing in the games to support it (e.g. his birth date, the part about him joining the army, taking part in the Lebanese Civil War serving under General Graves and meeting Dylan there is pure fanwankery).
Jimmy, on 31 December 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:
Where you fuck up, Jimmy, is being convinced that I want to downplay everything else.
This post has been edited by Altered Reality: 01 January 2014 - 04:01 AM
#63 Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:58 PM
"Those movie executive bastards are gonna pay!"
The game opens at the ending of Duke Nukem Forever. Duke is surrounded by women on the moon. "It's a good day to bet on Duke."
You hear the sound of a Zippo open up. A cigar lights.
"What a crock of shit."
The camera zooms out and you see Duke Nukem in a theater. Duke Nukem Forever was the proposed big Summer blockbuster of 2011. As the credits roll and his idiotic "buddy" in the film gets his jollies off, Duke Nukem stands up in disgust and walks out the theater, cigar in mouth and babes on each arm. As he makes his way out of the theater and onto the red carpet, he ignores and pushes aside film crews eager to hear his reaction to the film. Out of the corner of his eye, Duke sees a pudgy, unkempt man sneaking through the star struck audience, inching towards him with some sort of alien weapon. Duke thinks to himself "THEY SET ME UP! It’s all bullshit, all of it! The big film, the whole business. They cooked up a story and dropped me into a meat grinder!"
"Everyone get down!" Duke yells as he reaches for his trusty pistol. Before the odd looking man has time to react, he's dead on the ground. But he wasn't human. He only appeared that way.
Duke Nukem must fight his way into the upper echelons of the Hollywood/Illuminati conspiracy where he finds not everything is as it seems.
This post has been edited by Jimmy: 31 December 2013 - 04:00 PM
#65 Posted 31 December 2013 - 04:10 PM
Jimmy, on 31 December 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:
"Those movie executive bastards are gonna pay!"
The game opens at the ending of Duke Nukem Forever. Duke is surrounded by women on the moon. "It's a good day to bet on Duke."
You hear the sound of a Zippo open up. A cigar lights.
"What a crock of shit."
The camera zooms out and you see Duke Nukem in a theater. Duke Nukem Forever was the proposed big Summer blockbuster of 2011. As the credits roll and his idiotic "buddy" in the film gets his jollies off, Duke Nukem stands up in disgust and walks out the theater, cigar in mouth and babes on each arm. As he makes his way out of the theater and onto the red carpet, he ignores and pushes aside film crews eager to hear his reaction to the film. Out of the corner of his eye, Duke sees a pudgy, unkempt man sneaking through the star struck audience, inching towards him with some sort of alien weapon. Duke thinks to himself "THEY SET ME UP! It’s all bullshit, all of it! The big film, the whole business. They cooked up a story and dropped me into a meat grinder!"
"Everyone get down!" Duke yells as he reaches for his trusty pistol. Before the odd looking man has time to react, he's dead on the ground. But he wasn't human. He only appeared that way.
Duke Nukem must fight his way into the upper echelons of the Hollywood/Illuminati conspiracy where he finds not everything is as it seems.
Duke Nukem: Hollywood Holocaust. The gut-busting comedy event of the Summer! Starring Danny DeVito as Duke Nukem, directed by Uwe Boll.
#68 Posted 31 December 2013 - 04:13 PM
#69 Posted 31 December 2013 - 04:15 PM
I mean, he played Ben Bernanke. That's like, the Jesus of Jews.
#70 Posted 31 December 2013 - 10:02 PM
#71 Posted 01 January 2014 - 12:56 AM
#72 Posted 01 January 2014 - 01:24 PM
The basic origin of Duke is that at one point he served in the military, and we really don't want any content set during this time, because what would that be but yet another goddamn modern military shooter with one liners. Then he went rogue for some reason(according to Scott Miller and Allen Blum). Then he was later hired by the CIA to take on Proton, and the rest is pretty well known history.
I've honestly always been more interested in making Duke an older character. The attempt by triptych/gearbox to make Duke appear younger had the unfortunate side effect of also making him come off like even more of a stylish prick.
But, Duke has never really been intended to be taken as a character with a long running arc, most of the games, aside of the string holding the original trilogy together, have been one off events where Duke is essentially a fixed element. The same blond, muscle-bound dude with guns and a love of women. It's smart way to play it. However, reintroducing the character to a new audience wouldn't be a bad idea.
This post has been edited by Commando Nukem: 01 January 2014 - 02:05 PM
#73 Posted 01 January 2014 - 01:36 PM
Commando Nukem, on 01 January 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:
What if that part is just one level, where the clichés of modern military shooters are made fun of (e.g. having Duke suggest to follow an alternate route, only for his superior to say that "all war zones are long winding corridors with no alternate routes")?
Then the important part of the action would start, where Duke goes rogue (an intriguing concept which would allow for unusual situations and ways of interaction).
This post has been edited by Altered Reality: 01 January 2014 - 01:37 PM
#74 Posted 01 January 2014 - 01:56 PM
Altered Reality, on 01 January 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:
Then the important part of the action would start, where Duke goes rogue (an intriguing concept which would allow for unusual situations and ways of interaction).
The problem is that, done incorrectly, it becomes Duke Nukem Forever - A game that makes fun of modern gaming tropes while falling prey to those same tropes itself.
#75 Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:37 PM
Making a level that apes the MMS experience and then mocks it... Well, for one, we've already seen that. It was called "Duty Calls." For two, that's not really what I want from a Duke Nukem game. I want the game to give me good action gameplay first, and the humor can be secondary stuff.
#76 Posted 01 January 2014 - 06:15 PM
All this discussion is useless anyway... "if done incorrectly" you say... well, it WILL be done incorrectly one way or another. I don't trust Gearbox, Triptyc or wathever outsourced developer they decide to give the IP. If Duke is not dead, he's in coma breathing by respirators and feeding of medicinal cocktails through his vein (community mods and maps) and I can't see he getting out of this state for a long time.
This post has been edited by LkMax: 01 January 2014 - 06:15 PM
#77 Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:08 AM
Commando Nukem, on 01 January 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:
I've seen that video, and they did it wrong. Merely pointing out that something is boring does not make it any less boring, if what they subsequently do is ape it exactly. They should have instead set up some expectations, then subverted them by showing something funny but spectacular.
#78 Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:43 PM
#79 Posted 07 January 2014 - 06:54 AM
Altered Reality, on 31 December 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:
Also, I wanted to point out, this is actually official story "canon." Not fan wank. Which i'm not really happy with. It's too specific, and sounds way too serious for the rest of the tone that DNF brings to the table. If DNF took itself serious, with the wit of Nukem in there to counter-balance, than giving him that kind of back story would be fine. However, since the world is mentally challenged, all the men are dumb, all the women are sluts, Duke's a douche, and there's only one person in the whole thing that seems to not make a fool of themselves (Graves) I just... No.
"Is It Time to Spank Gearbox?" Nah. They're doing a good job of shooting themselves in the foot.
I wouldn't say their reputation is in all that good of shape.
#80 Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:11 AM
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#81 Posted 07 January 2014 - 05:26 PM
Fans of games such as Max Payne , Hitman , Halo , and even COD have many games that are modern enough to play and enjoy to this day. Such as Halo 1 . What i mean is imo we only have 2 Duke games that are modern enough to play, and play dedicated i mean. DN3D and DNF there is no others. Duke Nukem is sadly turning into a fail. Sure i would love a release from interceptor but will it be grade A stuff . Guess we would have to see. You know its getting quite depressing though, Duke is pretty much getting rejected nowadays and it isn't only DNF.
#82 Posted 07 January 2014 - 06:44 PM
Duke64Nukem, on 07 January 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:
I'm certain that whatever they come up with, it'll play more like a Duke game than DNF did.
#83 Posted 08 January 2014 - 09:53 AM
#84 Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:57 PM
cool name ^^
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#85 Posted 09 January 2014 - 05:48 AM
Final boss battle against prophet Muhammad. Duke must shove a pipebomb up his ass, bury his remains face down, then piss on his grave.
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#86 Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:26 PM
Duke64Nukem, on 08 January 2014 - 03:57 PM, said:
cool name ^^
Hehe yeah you took my name?
And I would never pay 200$ if it just has the name Duke Nukem, with nothing else.
#87 Posted 09 January 2014 - 01:23 PM
So who registered the troll account? Show yourself!
#88 Posted 09 January 2014 - 01:32 PM
#89 Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:14 PM
Revanchist, on 09 January 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:
This. I think it was very distasteful to not only steal Sega's money for another game(s), but to release it in the shape that it was in. I forgave them with DNF because of its particular situation, but A:CM was just the tip of the iceberg. Karma is going to do a wonder on them, if it hasn't already. I feel bad for the A:I team for even having to put up with Gearbox's stupid product (I know its going to be compared to A:CM).
I was honestly more impressed with DNF than I was with A:CM. DNF was at least playable, however sad the state of the character/universe itself was in. A:CM felt like they were deliberately throwing another DNF at us and just expected us to be alright with it. People (Gearbox) who blame Timegate are mentally challenged.
Also, hai.
#90 Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:22 PM
I agree, A:CM felt like they basically took DNF and put some aliens related stuff in there. In fact, i think they actually used several animations from DNF in A:CM.
This post has been edited by ReaperMan: 09 January 2014 - 03:22 PM