How about making Eduke32 able to play avi. mpg etc if is not too complex?

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How about making Eduke32 able to play avi. mpg etc if is not too complex? "Dunno if is in the wrong place or not but still random question"

Zaxtor

#1 Posted 13 June 2010 - 09:32 PM

Like cineover thing (ANM) is like very darkageish and vintage.

Modern duke can accept jpeg. gif. png etc without affecting the game's normal palette.
Also can play mp3, ogg etc.
HRP / polymer.
and more.

But would be cool if in duke3d.def you make so it can play an avi. Avi is easy to make you make a clip with gif and convert to avi.
Then avi to mpeg but wont have sounds tho.

Probably you'll need to make sound and vid separated like the ANM.
If is not too complex to make maybe in future update of Eduke32 it would be awsome making it accept AVI, Mpeg, mov etc.
Like it can accept almost anything accept clips outside ANM.

TerminX

el fundador

#2 Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:04 PM

EDuke32 is not a media player.

Zaxtor

#3 Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:16 PM

I know but would be cool high resolution movie clips at the end of each lv.
Just saying

TerminX

el fundador

#4 Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:37 PM

Yeah, and I'm just saying I'm not going to add support for some huge video decoding library just for the sake of replacing some 15 second videos.

Mark

#5 Posted 14 June 2010 - 04:42 AM

I would like to see it used to play videos on monitor screens throughout the game or similar things in the game. Not just cut scenes. No hurry, I'll wait

This post has been edited by Marked: 14 June 2010 - 04:42 AM

The Commander

I used to be a Brown Fuzzy Fruit, but I've changed bro...

#6 Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:23 AM

This video is not a .ANM, was a bit of an ass to get right and it still sometimes crashes EDuke32 after it finishes playing.

http://www.youtube.c...6pmcKYE#t=6m00s

Instead it is 304 separate .png images defined in a .DEF file and coded a simple actor that will play them as it's ACTION while playing the audio from the video.

This post has been edited by The Commander: 14 June 2010 - 06:27 AM

CruX

#7 Posted 14 June 2010 - 07:29 AM

The Commander, on Jun 14 2010, 07:23 AM, said:

This video is not a .ANM, was a bit of an ass to get right and it still sometimes crashes EDuke32 after it finishes playing.

It's pretty cool, but it wouldn't it work just as well to animate it through a gamevar counter and show it in the displayrest event?

The Commander

I used to be a Brown Fuzzy Fruit, but I've changed bro...

#8 Posted 14 June 2010 - 08:06 AM

That could have worked but I can also use in maps that are MP and display it on a monitor in a base etc with out worrying about sync etc

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#9 Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:47 AM

Zaxtor, on Jun 14 2010, 12:32 AM, said:

mp3

Nope.

Zaxtor, on Jun 14 2010, 12:32 AM, said:

But would be cool if in duke3d.def you make so it can play an avi. Avi is easy to make you make a clip with gif and convert to avi.

Facepalm. That is not how you make a movie.

TX, on Jun 14 2010, 01:37 AM, said:

Yeah, and I'm just saying I'm not going to add support for some huge video decoding library just for the sake of replacing some 15 second videos.

Yep, AVI is a container format and IMO there would be a lot of shittily encoded videos floating around mods if that were to occur. OGG Theora or VP8 are ways to go.

Another thought are APNG, MNG, and ProAsm's zip file container movies. By default, the ANMs don't have sound, so this could be an acceptable alternative.

This post has been edited by Hendricks266: 14 June 2010 - 09:48 AM

Zaxtor

#10 Posted 14 June 2010 - 11:52 AM

Was sure it could play mp3 but is discouraged due to some copyright issues etc.

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#11 Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:18 AM

It's impossible to hook fmod into a GPL program. (OGG>MP3 for applications anyway.)

The Commander

I used to be a Brown Fuzzy Fruit, but I've changed bro...

#12 Posted 18 July 2011 - 04:28 PM

Nice to see that VP8 has been put into eduke now, this has been LONG overdue.

Great work Helix, this will help many newer mods in the long run, also the HRP should benefit from this.

Micky C

Honored Donor

#13 Posted 18 July 2011 - 04:37 PM

So what does this mean for the layman?

The Commander

I used to be a Brown Fuzzy Fruit, but I've changed bro...

#14 Posted 18 July 2011 - 04:40 PM

Micky C, on 18 July 2011 - 04:37 PM, said:

So what does this mean for the layman?

Videos instead of the crappy .ANM ones seen during start up etc

This post has been edited by The Commander: 18 July 2011 - 05:12 PM

Hank

#15 Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:07 PM

The Commander, on 18 July 2011 - 04:28 PM, said:

Nice to see that VP8 has been put into eduke now, this has been LONG overdue.

Great work Helix, this will help many newer mods in the long run, also the HRP should benefit from this.

I can't find that quote, but did you not acquire Visual Studio? I rather see Helix on TROR. Yeah, selfish. So feel free to incorporate VP8 into Eduke32 yourself. All the best. Posted Image

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Wait! Who da fuck unearthed a year old thread? I got confused with the reds and greens, I feel stupid posting. Posted Image

This post has been edited by Hank: 18 July 2011 - 05:12 PM

The Commander

I used to be a Brown Fuzzy Fruit, but I've changed bro...

#16 Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:11 PM

Hank, on 18 July 2011 - 05:07 PM, said:

I can't find that quote, but did you not acquire Visual Studio? I rather see Helix on TROR. Yeah, selfish. So feel free to incorporate VP8 into Eduke32 yourself. All the best. Posted Image

People need to read the "ChangeLog.txt" of the snapshot builds.

http://dukeworld.duk...3/ChangeLog.txt

Hank, on 18 July 2011 - 05:07 PM, said:

Wait! Who da fuck unearthed a year old thread? I got confused with the reds and greens, I feel stupid posting. Posted Image

I did because this topic is already about video, so why make a new one?

This post has been edited by The Commander: 18 July 2011 - 05:15 PM

Hank

#17 Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:21 PM

The Commander, on 18 July 2011 - 05:11 PM, said:

People need to read the "ChangeLog.txt" of the snapshot builds.

To keep up with all the happenings of EDuke32 is a full time job! Posted Image

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#18 Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:20 PM

Or just read this, it's easier.

http://eduke32.svn.s...uke32/?view=log

Micky C

Honored Donor

#19 Posted 19 July 2011 - 04:52 AM

Would it be possible to have the videos playing in game? Like on a wall?

Helixhorned

EDuke32 Developer

#20 Posted 19 July 2011 - 11:05 AM

Theoretically, yes. One problem right now is that the colorspace conversion is done using a fragment shader, and I don't know how much that would get especially in Polymer's way.

Mblackwell

Evil Overlord

#21 Posted 19 July 2011 - 05:16 PM

If you supported MNG's that would do it in gamespace.

Otherwise of course you can hack it using alt-pal textures. Messy but doable.

Erm, obviously I'm talking about near-term rather than the above VP8 support.

The Commander

I used to be a Brown Fuzzy Fruit, but I've changed bro...

#22 Posted 19 July 2011 - 06:02 PM

Hendricks266, on 18 July 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

Or just read this, it's easier.

http://eduke32.svn.s...uke32/?view=log

I dare you to try load that page with a dial up connection.

Micky C

Honored Donor

#23 Posted 19 July 2011 - 06:23 PM

My God... that page loads info all the way back from 2006 Posted Image

Plagman

Former VP of Media Operations

#24 Posted 19 July 2011 - 07:37 PM

It wouldn't be a problem to hook that into Polymer, but the major unknown is how to control it? As soon as there's a well-defined way for gameland/CON to control video playback on a given tile actually hooking it up to the renderer is very easy.

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#25 Posted 19 July 2011 - 09:08 PM

Hopefully in addition to overriding the original ANMs, and defining movies to tiles, there would also be a way to trigger ANMs/movies full-screen on-demand, as well as a way to custom-create any sounds and music for the duration from CON.

Tetsuo

#26 Posted 20 July 2011 - 12:25 AM

I personally can't speak for how it would work internally\technically like with gameland\con stuff... but speaking of controls for in-game media it probably wouldn't need a lot of them in the game. Like for example think of how the slide\sound shows on the TVs worked in Max Payne. The only control you had over them is on\off and they just looped their content over and over. The other way I have seen it is like in Prey where a series of videos is linked to a TV and you cycle through them when you press use on the TV and the end of the cycle is "off" and then you use it again to turn it on. But generally it's like the controls are just on\off and it loops content over and over. It wouldn't need tons of controls at any time like fast forward, rewind, pause\play.

This post has been edited by Tetsuo: 20 July 2011 - 12:29 AM

Zaxtor

#27 Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:34 AM

Probably I lived under a rock.

Did duke changed for the ANM files and use a new type of files like VP8?
Like Eduke32 evolved uses HPR, TROR and other badass special effects. What about the Cineover / ANM thingie?
Changed/??

Micky C

Honored Donor

#28 Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:46 AM

Relax Zaxtor, nothing's been released yet. When the feature is finalized and made public, then they'll release instructions on how to use it.

BrentNewland

#29 Posted 20 July 2011 - 09:35 AM

This is great news! I'll be honest, when playing Duke Nukem I had a hard time grasping the story line. I'm sure someone will work on a cutscene pack, which would be absolutely incredible (Duke is a lot like the first Unreal game in this area, great game to play, just couldn't figure out the story that well).

Zaxtor

#30 Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:19 AM

If they release it and lets u make long cinema would be awsome.

Also altering the E1 cine thing since is very diff from others.
Also able to put or remove unwanted sound in the clip (all of the clips).
Some has sounds u can't remove cus are hardcoded.

This post has been edited by Zaxtor: 20 July 2011 - 11:20 AM