Duke Nukem 3D: 20th Anniversary World Tour

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#2431 Posted 02 December 2016 - 06:04 PM

What Fox said. I've been following DNF very closely for 18 years. You guys are remembering things from rose-tinted glasses. If builds of DNF were that close to being finished then they would have been finished. Until 2007 DNF never even came close to being 50% done.

HiPolyBash

#2432 Posted 02 December 2016 - 06:13 PM

Jimmy Gnosis, on 02 December 2016 - 06:04 PM, said:

No one said close to finished. Fred said the 1998 build had very little if nothing aside from what was shown in the trailer but the 2001 era version of the game had a lot of content.

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#2433 Posted 02 December 2016 - 06:15 PM

And thats the keyword... "content." A lot of content that didn't really have any connection to each other. DNF had extremely chaotic and unorganized development.

HiPolyBash

#2434 Posted 02 December 2016 - 06:22 PM

Nobody said it didn't? You kept interjecting in a conversation about the games state in the early 2000s with something a dev attached in 2009 said that was completely unrelated.

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#2435 Posted 02 December 2016 - 06:50 PM

That wasn't the conversation at all. You guys interjected into me flaming Nancsi with your irrelevant discussion.

HiPolyBash

#2436 Posted 02 December 2016 - 07:06 PM

Whatever the case be just remember I love you. and Gearbox killed Duke.

Jimmy

Let's go Brandon!

#2437 Posted 02 December 2016 - 08:40 PM

I love you too, and you're correct. Many others may have weakened Duke, including his parents (so to speak) but Gearbox put the knife in his back and twisted. And now they use his corpse like a bizarre Weekend at Bernie's sideshow.

PikaCommando

#2438 Posted 02 December 2016 - 10:41 PM

Fox, on 02 December 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

Huh? Frederik specifically said there wasn't much more than it was shown in the trailers.

Fred have also said that the 2002 version is when the "2001 version" was "at its best", whatever that means. It looks like all the weapons + their alternate fire modes and deathmatch levels were already implemented back then, but we still don't know about the state of the SP in 2002 aside from George being idea-mad and the dynamic lighting thrown into the mix near the end which slowed down development.

stumppy84

#2439 Posted 02 December 2016 - 11:54 PM

So was it the dynamic lighting that ultimately killed the 2001 build?

OpenMaw

Judge Mental

#2440 Posted 03 December 2016 - 12:01 AM

stumppy84, on 02 December 2016 - 11:54 PM, said:

So was it the dynamic lighting that ultimately killed the 2001 build?

Pretty much, yep. Without that bullshit, the game would have went to completion. Doom 3's gritty and cinematic presentation scared Broussard shitless I wager. It shows, too, because the versions from 2003 to 2005 really have that Doom 3 look to them. Thick oily shadows, wonky physics. The wewks.

stumppy84

#2441 Posted 03 December 2016 - 12:05 AM

Son of a bitch... that's so lame..

Steve 64

#2442 Posted 03 December 2016 - 06:03 AM

is the rain on eps 4 level one suppose to be red?

brullov

Senior Artist at TGK

#2443 Posted 03 December 2016 - 06:38 AM

To my personal taste DNF 2001 looks much better than Doom 3.

axl

#2444 Posted 03 December 2016 - 07:28 AM

Is anyone else having some framerate drops when playing the new episode under eduke32 ? In the first level (High Times) my framerate drops to 35 - 40 standing on the bridge and looking over the water... this is weird because I normally have a very stable 60 fps in the first 4 episodes.

BTW... I actually think that the new episode looks way better under eduke32. The mouselook is also way superior.

Fox

Fraka kaka kaka kaka-kow!

#2445 Posted 03 December 2016 - 07:33 AM

The episode was made using Eduke32/Mapster32, so it's no surprise.

This post has been edited by Fox: 03 December 2016 - 07:33 AM

AdrenalinDragon

#2446 Posted 03 December 2016 - 07:34 AM

Nice how this thread turned into talking about DNF instead of Duke 3D.

Also, I agree the game looks better in eDuke32, but Polymer is too laggy for me.

axl

#2447 Posted 03 December 2016 - 01:12 PM

Replaying the new episode in eduke32 really improved the fun factor of the new episode and made me realize how well designed the new levels are.

A few questions though:

1. When will we be seeing full support in eduke32 for world tour (incinerator, final boss, ...)? As it is my understanding, the main priority of the eduke development team is now the Total Meltdown mod?

2. When full support is available, will it maintain the new world tour main menu and intro screens? Or will it just be using the old atomic intro screens?

3. Are there plans to also provide world tour specifics? Such as ambient occlusion, the playback feature or the developper commentary?

brullov

Senior Artist at TGK

#2448 Posted 03 December 2016 - 02:52 PM

axl, on 03 December 2016 - 01:12 PM, said:

1. When will we be seeing full support in eduke32 for world tour (incinerator, final boss, ...)? As it is my understanding, the main priority of the eduke development team is now the Total Meltdown mod?

I suppose the main priority is new a game on Build Engine. And if it's so, it is the best decision.

MusicallyInspired

The Sarien Encounter

#2449 Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:08 PM

DNF should have been cancelled. Or completely redesigned. But I'm sure that wasn't the terms of the Duke IP sale to Gearbox. That's what killed Duke.

HulkNukem

#2450 Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:11 PM

DNF absolutely had to be released; fault the final product for not being great, finished, bastardized or not the original vision, but the fact it can be said that Duke Nukem Forever was released is good and means there is closure, no matter how sour.

MusicallyInspired

The Sarien Encounter

#2451 Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:12 PM

I'd rather Duke had been remembered for what he was, not for how DNF represented him.

This post has been edited by MusicallyInspired: 08 December 2016 - 07:22 AM

TerminX

el fundador

#2452 Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:23 PM

brullov, on 03 December 2016 - 02:52 PM, said:

I suppose the main priority is new a game on Build Engine. And if it's so, it is the best decision.

Correct, this is almost our only priority at the moment.

HulkNukem

#2453 Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:26 PM

Is an official expansion pak the second priority? :mellow:

brullov

Senior Artist at TGK

#2454 Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:36 PM

HulkNukem, on 03 December 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

Is an official expansion pak the second priority? :mellow:

Of course! With sequel, film by 20th century fox and betas! lol Posted Image

stumppy84

#2455 Posted 04 December 2016 - 12:32 PM

Quick question, was the infamous "BAZINGA!!" ever used in the episode? I've played through it twice and I never heard it once..

Kawa

#2456 Posted 04 December 2016 - 12:41 PM

stumppy84, on 04 December 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

Quick question, was the infamous "BAZINGA!!" ever used in the episode? I've played through it twice and I never heard it once..

VO_MQ_Duke_BigBang.ogg, defined as sound 427 MQ_DUKE_BIGBANG. That's all I can tell you.

NNC

#2457 Posted 05 December 2016 - 10:32 AM

Talk about references, the origin of one of our manly man hero's quotes:

(Heard in Mirage Barrage "water" room, when Duke blows up the cracks...)

Kawa

#2458 Posted 05 December 2016 - 12:12 PM

Why though? :mellow:

Fantinaikos

#2459 Posted 05 December 2016 - 12:32 PM

Nancsi, on 05 December 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

Talk about references, the origin of one of our manly man hero's quotes:

(Heard in Mirage Barrage "water" room, when Duke blows up the cracks...)

Tuskens do it better.

Trivia: You can clearly hear "tusken" in second video around 0:05)

This post has been edited by Fantinaikos: 05 December 2016 - 12:36 PM

Kawa

#2460 Posted 05 December 2016 - 12:59 PM

I don't usually run in Polymer because it uglifies the rest of the system while it's running and I don't like to melt my system, but hey sure I can do a quick screenshot run. So here's an early spot in E5M2 "Red Ruckus" that really highlights some differences in how three different renderers do their thing.