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The Commander, on 03 November 2014 - 10:24 AM, said:
Haters going to hate.
You could say he has Hatred.
Hatred "Too much?"
#121 Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:16 AM
You could say he has Hatred.
#122 Posted 03 November 2014 - 01:28 PM
Idiotska, on 03 November 2014 - 08:45 AM, said:
How do you feel about incompetent indie devs telling you to take your game down?
Fuck em.
#123 Posted 03 November 2014 - 01:47 PM
"also be sure to visit my patrion!"
I think it's kinda fitting that 90% of these socialist idiots also have patrion accounts.
"we want to smash the state!...on your dime, so please donate generously because our trust fund parents are getting sick of my lazy ass"
I think it's kinda fitting that 90% of these socialist idiots also have patrion accounts.
"we want to smash the state!...on your dime, so please donate generously because our trust fund parents are getting sick of my lazy ass"
This post has been edited by Jblade: 03 November 2014 - 01:48 PM
#124 Posted 03 November 2014 - 02:20 PM
I don't think he's attracting the attention he hoped for.
Sieg! o/
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...I absolutely refuse to share the industry with this disgusting studio.
Sieg! o/
#125 Posted 15 December 2014 - 12:14 PM
Oh hey! They got this on Greenligh-nevermind Valve pull-nevermind Valve put it back on.
This post has been edited by Idiotska: 18 January 2015 - 01:57 PM
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#126 Posted 15 December 2014 - 03:11 PM
Can't say I'm surprised. Valve was probably expecting a media field day with this game's release. When you're in the business of making money, you make cowardly decisions for the greater good (or the greater dollar).
#127 Posted 16 December 2014 - 01:01 AM
Nobody's made it clear if the greenlight page was actually put up by the company making the game or if it was simply someone making it to be funny. For it to be pulled so abruptly says more about it not being a real greenlight page than anything.
#128 Posted 16 December 2014 - 01:08 AM
It was a real Greenlight entry. The developers posted on their Facebook a screenshot of their stats page showing the game received over 13,000 yes votes and reached a #7 rank out of 2000+ in the short couple of hours the Greenlight page was available:
This post has been edited by Marphy Black: 16 December 2014 - 01:09 AM
#130 Posted 17 December 2014 - 03:24 AM
Valve restored Hatred's Greenlight page and Gabe Newell sent an apology to the CEO. Screenshot for those without an FB account:
The game is now ranked #1 on Greenlight.
The game is now ranked #1 on Greenlight.
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#131 Posted 17 December 2014 - 05:05 AM
Marphy Black, on 17 December 2014 - 03:24 AM, said:
Gaben is the man.
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#132 Posted 17 December 2014 - 05:54 AM
Marphy Black, on 17 December 2014 - 03:24 AM, said:
Valve restored Hatred's Greenlight page and Gabe Newell sent an apology to the CEO. Screenshot for those without an FB account:
The game is now ranked #1 on Greenlight.
The game is now ranked #1 on Greenlight.
Now THAT is surprising. That means Gaben is basically giving the company his blessing, which is notable if the media goes into a frenzy over this game.
Gaben's got balls.
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#133 Posted 17 December 2014 - 06:57 AM
To much negative press and comments towards Valve maybe?
This post has been edited by The Commander: 17 December 2014 - 07:03 AM
#135 Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:45 AM
Honestly if they are selling Postal Classic why not sell Hatred
#136 Posted 17 December 2014 - 10:39 PM
Gabe saw the backlash and returned the game to Steam because money talks, it seems.
The idea of this game still disgusts me, but Steam has no say in this matter when they sell things like Postal and Carmageddon which are comparable.
What's up with those Slavic people anyway, though? First A Serbian Film and now this.
I don't think Wolfenstein's "excuse" is Nazis, though. Wolfenstein is definitely more tame than Doom and Duke, because you're killing people (Nazis are still people). Hitler's death in Wolf3D is sorta justified because Hitler is universally accepted as the ultimate evil, and only Nazis, who are lowly pieces of shit themselves, would protest it, but notice how the other bosses' deaths are far less gory. Even vanilla Doom and Duke I don't find too gory at all. As far as Build games go I think Shadow Warrior and Blood are definitely gorier than Duke.
The idea of this game still disgusts me, but Steam has no say in this matter when they sell things like Postal and Carmageddon which are comparable.
What's up with those Slavic people anyway, though? First A Serbian Film and now this.
I don't think Wolfenstein's "excuse" is Nazis, though. Wolfenstein is definitely more tame than Doom and Duke, because you're killing people (Nazis are still people). Hitler's death in Wolf3D is sorta justified because Hitler is universally accepted as the ultimate evil, and only Nazis, who are lowly pieces of shit themselves, would protest it, but notice how the other bosses' deaths are far less gory. Even vanilla Doom and Duke I don't find too gory at all. As far as Build games go I think Shadow Warrior and Blood are definitely gorier than Duke.
This post has been edited by Duke of Hazzard: 17 December 2014 - 11:00 PM
#137 Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:19 AM
This post has been edited by Idiotska: 18 December 2014 - 05:24 AM
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#138 Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:32 AM
Duke of Hazzard, on 17 December 2014 - 10:39 PM, said:
Gabe saw the backlash and returned the game to Steam because money talks, it seems.
The idea of this game still disgusts me, but Steam has no say in this matter when they sell things like Postal and Carmageddon which are comparable.
What's up with those Slavic people anyway, though? First A Serbian Film and now this.
I don't think Wolfenstein's "excuse" is Nazis, though. Wolfenstein is definitely more tame than Doom and Duke, because you're killing people (Nazis are still people). Hitler's death in Wolf3D is sorta justified because Hitler is universally accepted as the ultimate evil, and only Nazis, who are lowly pieces of shit themselves, would protest it, but notice how the other bosses' deaths are far less gory. Even vanilla Doom and Duke I don't find too gory at all. As far as Build games go I think Shadow Warrior and Blood are definitely gorier than Duke.
The idea of this game still disgusts me, but Steam has no say in this matter when they sell things like Postal and Carmageddon which are comparable.
What's up with those Slavic people anyway, though? First A Serbian Film and now this.
I don't think Wolfenstein's "excuse" is Nazis, though. Wolfenstein is definitely more tame than Doom and Duke, because you're killing people (Nazis are still people). Hitler's death in Wolf3D is sorta justified because Hitler is universally accepted as the ultimate evil, and only Nazis, who are lowly pieces of shit themselves, would protest it, but notice how the other bosses' deaths are far less gory. Even vanilla Doom and Duke I don't find too gory at all. As far as Build games go I think Shadow Warrior and Blood are definitely gorier than Duke.
You know that one of the people working on this game is a forum member here right and a old time community member.
He also worked on NecroVision.
#139 Posted 18 January 2015 - 06:39 AM
This just in: The ESRB slaps Hatred w/ an AO Rating. The so-called "Context" is very edgy indeed. Here's a quote:
http://www.gamespot....mpaign=homepage
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"Well, I'm not quite convinced why Hatred got AO rating while it lacks any sexual content, but it's still some kind of achievement to have the second game in history getting AO rating for violence and harsh language only," a Destructive Creations developer said on the game's official forum. "Even if this violence isn't really that bad and this harsh language is not overused. The guy from ESRB (by the way - very nice, polite and cooperative one) told me it's all about 'the context' which people they're testing gameplay video on will see."
http://www.gamespot....mpaign=homepage
This post has been edited by DustFalcon85: 18 January 2015 - 06:40 AM
#142 Posted 19 January 2015 - 03:36 PM
Discussion of Hatred is bannable on NeoGAF, so progressive! Progressively becoming shittier every day.
#143 Posted 19 January 2015 - 08:28 PM
The Commander, on 18 December 2014 - 01:32 AM, said:
You know that one of the people working on this game is a forum member here right and a old time community member.
He also worked on NecroVision.
He also worked on NecroVision.
Who is it ? Just curious.
Edit: Okay nevermind, found the answer on previous page.
Idiotska, on 19 January 2015 - 03:36 PM, said:
Discussion of Hatred is bannable on NeoGAF, so progressive! Progressively becoming shittier every day.
Really ? Now that ain't fucking right... Talk about abusive censorship even from gamers. I don't care really care about this game but there should not be so much problems with it, of course it looks ultra-violent and immature, but it's not like it's the only game like this out there. It maybe the most violent however. It's just a game... I agree that it deserve a AO rating however, games like these can really be dangerous in the wrong hands due to the realistic and merciless gameplay and should definitely not be sold to everyone, but not being able to talk about it on forums ? ... What a lame attitude, just really lame.
Beside that, i don't know if it is false rumors just to give the game even more hate towards it (like Manhunt 2 with pseudo-cannibalistic shit back in the day), but I have heard (and read) some of the devs were apparently related to racists groups and all, is that really true and confirmed ? If it is, i guess that's the main reason why the game and it's purposes are so problematics for some. Because honestly, Postal 1 was the very same game, and it was even more cruel, i don't think Hatred will let us do mass rampage in a school, it really was fucked up back in 1997, it will be even more in 2015. That being said, Postal 1 will have a Redux-HD version this year, and nobody gives a fuck about it. It should be on the same pedestal as Hatred, if not even higher for that specific thing.
EDIT: Someone mentionned this on page 2, but no further discussions about this.
This post has been edited by Evilman: 19 January 2015 - 08:41 PM
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#144 Posted 20 January 2015 - 05:10 AM
Evilman, on 19 January 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:
Postal 1 will have a Redux-HD version this year, and nobody gives a fuck about it. It should be on the same pedestal as Hatred, if not even higher for that specific thing.
I actually thought you were just kidding about this, until I looked it up myself. Announced less than a month after Hatred, uses the Unreal Engine 4...I wonder if they'll also incorporate special execution moves with camera close-ups?
Seriously.
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#145 Posted 20 January 2015 - 05:59 AM
Yeah Postal Redux was announced November 14, while Hatred was something like October 15 or something close. No idea if it really was planned or if they simply wanted to create some concurrence, but it's simply incredible that noone seems to care about it while Hatred is on every possible discussion since the announcement. I'll guess it is because Hatred got an actual trailer, while Postal Redux is just some words on RWS twitter account for now...
Still, the original game is known by many, that should already bring some serious questions about its content. If they're really going to use UE4 for it and leave the final mission as it was in the original game, there will be a massive shitstorm over them, Hatred will have a serious opponent and we're gonna have a ton of shitty petitions, articles, and news about how video-games are more and more violent from people who don't even know what a fucking GameBoy is. Not that i care about these, but it's never a good thing.
Still, the original game is known by many, that should already bring some serious questions about its content. If they're really going to use UE4 for it and leave the final mission as it was in the original game, there will be a massive shitstorm over them, Hatred will have a serious opponent and we're gonna have a ton of shitty petitions, articles, and news about how video-games are more and more violent from people who don't even know what a fucking GameBoy is. Not that i care about these, but it's never a good thing.
This post has been edited by Evilman: 20 January 2015 - 06:00 AM
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#146 Posted 24 January 2015 - 12:31 PM
Idiotska, on 19 January 2015 - 03:36 PM, said:
Discussion of Hatred is bannable on NeoGAF, so progressive! Progressively becoming shittier every day.
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This post has been edited by BREAKINGTHELAYOUT ISACRIME: 24 January 2015 - 12:33 PM
#147 Posted 27 January 2015 - 10:30 PM
Finally goth kids have a means to kick ass instead of whining and writing poetry in the dark while listening to The Crow soundtrack. Were they trying to channel Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold or is that just accidental?
This post has been edited by RunningWild: 27 January 2015 - 10:37 PM
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#148 Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:27 AM
RunningWild, on 27 January 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:
Finally goth kids have a means to kick ass instead of whining and writing poetry in the dark while listening to The Crow soundtrack. Were they trying to channel Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold or is that just accidental?
Folks keep making reference to the original Postal, but I have to be honest. I never heard anything about the original Postal when it was released. Nobody I know had any clue what the original Postal was like while playing Postal 2. There's a reason the original Postal isn't remembered outside of a niche circle. When you say "Postal" in a gaming context, most people are thinking Postal 2. Because Postal 2 is clearly taking the piss and not giving a damn. It's a fun experience, and at least in some fashion *some* of the violence is justified within the context of the Postal Dude's insane and stupid world. It's a romp. The original Postal is a mostly humourless experience that has largely been forgotten, and when I did finally play it, I didn't have much fun. I found it frustrating, and aimless.
This to me does feel like a masturbatory game for would-be serial killers. This does fit the definition of what they used to call Doom. It's a murder simulator. You're playing a guy who is no different than the pathetic waste of flesh that took a gun into a theater and gunned down a bunch of people just trying to enjoy Batman. Who wants to be that guy? Not me. A scientist caught in the middle of an alien invasion? Cool scenario. A badass space marine against the armies of Hell? Awesome. Duke Nukem? Great. Max Payne? Engaging. BJ Blazkowicz? Let's kill some nazies! ...But this? Who exactly wants to play this guy, doing what he's doing?
With no irony, who here wants to play this game? I'd really love to hear their thoughts, and what it is that appeals to them about it, because I am honestly just repulsed by it on every level, and that takes some doing.
#149 Posted 28 January 2015 - 09:22 AM
Commando Nukem, on 28 January 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:
Folks keep making reference to the original Postal, but I have to be honest. I never heard anything about the original Postal when it was released. Nobody I know had any clue what the original Postal was like while playing Postal 2.
This is because the history of the original POSTAL dates to a pre-mainstream Internet era where things tend to fall into the cracks without the on-line presence. This was when things were primarily reported in newspapers, magazines, and on television, while any Internet articles from back then covering the subject have largely been lost to the harsh mistress that is time. While more popular series such as Mortal Kombat and Doom are best remembered today as being the progenitors of violence in video games, it was titles like POSTAL that really pushed the envelope, becoming a hot enough topic to the point of reaching the US Senate. Several games that thrive today, namely the Grand Theft Auto series, owe a great deal to the original POSTAL as it was among the first to face this sort of controversy. It's hard to describe just how much pressure Running With Scissors faced nationwide (and worldwide, for that matter), both from heavy hitter politicians and the retailers (the old time brick-and-mortar kind) themselves whom they had to rely on for sales. That this small team of about a dozen people managed to drudge their way through this immense strife and continue on is a testament to how hard they fought, very much paving the way for future games of this ilk to come.
Also, to say that the original POSTAL has been forgotten in the face of POSTAL 2 ignores one key fact: it was only the runaway success of the original that allowed its sequel to exist. The two are quite inextricably intertwined, and beneath the surface, POSTAL 2 has much more in common with its grim older brother than may be immediately obvious.
