Well,for what it's worth,I finally bought Liquidator 2: Welcome to Hell.Seems like it might be interesting.Haven't had a chance to install it yet,because I've been busy.I know some of you may think I wasted my money,but it was VERY inexpensive.Any opinions?
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Liquidator 2
#1 Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:48 AM
#2 Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:19 AM
Wtf. So let me get this straight. This is a russian commercial game that simply took the Build engine and made this amateurish game and sold it without ever giving a shit about 3drealm's copyrights?
And you bought this instead of pirating it? Ok..
But considering how bad it is, I think there are chances that you can't even find it to pirate it anywhere.
And you bought this instead of pirating it? Ok..
But considering how bad it is, I think there are chances that you can't even find it to pirate it anywhere.
#3 Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:08 AM
Mr.Deviance, on 06 June 2013 - 02:19 AM, said:
Wtf. So let me get this straight. This is a russian commercial game that simply took the Build engine and made this amateurish game and sold it without ever giving a shit about 3drealm's copyrights?
And you bought this instead of pirating it? Ok..
But considering how bad it is, I think there are chances that you can't even find it to pirate it anywhere.
And you bought this instead of pirating it? Ok..
But considering how bad it is, I think there are chances that you can't even find it to pirate it anywhere.
Oh,shit!I Is it really pirated?I'm glad you mentioned this.And yes,I really paid for it.All of $1.00 at a lawn sale,unopened.While I did open the package itself,as I said,I haven't installed it.After what you told me,I don't think I will,now.I always get my games legally because I feel it's the right thing to do.Hope you have a good day anyway.Thanks again for telling me.
#4 Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:32 AM
I did not say it's pirated. Read what I said again.
I said that I read somewhere that it's a russian game sold retail in russia.
The problem with the game that I heard about is that it's using build engine without any rights.
In russia it's treated like a serious full blown retail game that gets sold gaming markets.
It's basically just using the build engine and making money out of it.
I don't know if that's legal or not nor do I really care to be honest.
That game is a joke that I didn't even hear about until now.
I said that I read somewhere that it's a russian game sold retail in russia.
The problem with the game that I heard about is that it's using build engine without any rights.
In russia it's treated like a serious full blown retail game that gets sold gaming markets.
It's basically just using the build engine and making money out of it.
I don't know if that's legal or not nor do I really care to be honest.
That game is a joke that I didn't even hear about until now.
This post has been edited by Mr.Deviance: 06 June 2013 - 03:43 AM
#5 Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:07 AM
Yes,i read what you said.I did do some research and I did see pirated copies listed.I hope they didn't use the build engine illegally.Anyway,it did not get good reviews,so I lost interest.Since it was only $1,no loss.I can give it to someone in my apt building who likes FPS games.And actually you did help.I have plenty of games anyway,Duke of course,Doom series,and a lot of good FPS games I like.So have a good one!
#6 Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:08 AM
Liquidator 2 is not a BUILD engine game, Liquidator (1) is, though.
#7 Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:31 AM
Daedolon, on 06 June 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:
Liquidator 2 is not a BUILD engine game, Liquidator (1) is, though.
There was a Liquidator 1? Where?
#8 Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:57 AM
Hank, on 06 June 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:
There was a Liquidator 1? Where?
http://dukenukem3dtc....com/id177.html
#9 Posted 06 June 2013 - 05:26 AM
UM.....I think I'll just sneak off and play Duke Nukem Megaton.Thanks everyone very much for your help!
#10 Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:46 AM
The first game also hexedited the headers of their GRP files and renamed them so they wouldn't be opened in editors. They tried to mask that it's BUILD as if it wasn't obvious enough
Another fishy code FPS game from Russia is Z.A.R. by Maddox Games. Although leaps and bounds more original than Liquidator, you have to wonder where that Abrash video mode initialization code and turbulent waterwarp came from... *cough*Quake 1.01 linux code leak*cough*
Another fishy code FPS game from Russia is Z.A.R. by Maddox Games. Although leaps and bounds more original than Liquidator, you have to wonder where that Abrash video mode initialization code and turbulent waterwarp came from... *cough*Quake 1.01 linux code leak*cough*
This post has been edited by leilei: 06 June 2013 - 11:49 AM
#11 Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:14 PM
In mid-2004, one Russian "game design studio" shamelessly tried to sell a(n already outdated at that time) version of Cube (with some minor modifications thrown in here and there) as an original product of their own. The archived copy of the publisher's website has a few screenshots in low quality that still show that this is, in fact, Cube:
screenshot1
screenshot2
No idea how many copies were sold.
In the same year, a large Russian game review website contacted Wouter van Oortmerssen after the staff had been notified by a reader that the game was in question was a version of Cube. The developer confirmed that no Russian company ever licensed the Cube engine from him, and neither did he give any permission to sell derivative products. He took no legal action as far as I'm concerned.
screenshot1
screenshot2
No idea how many copies were sold.
In the same year, a large Russian game review website contacted Wouter van Oortmerssen after the staff had been notified by a reader that the game was in question was a version of Cube. The developer confirmed that no Russian company ever licensed the Cube engine from him, and neither did he give any permission to sell derivative products. He took no legal action as far as I'm concerned.
#14 Posted 07 June 2013 - 01:10 AM
Jimmy, on 06 June 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:
Russia is awesome.
486DX2, on 06 June 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:
It's so ghetto it's glorious.
#16 Posted 16 June 2013 - 07:15 AM
Well,I just played it anyway,and it was fairly good.Then I gave it away.
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