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Duke Nukem 3D 1.0 demo?

nukemania

#1 Posted 26 January 2012 - 08:24 PM

I know about Lameduke, and I don't know if this is the same thing or not. I can't find info about it anywhere else.

I read that the spacesuit was originally implemented and works in a Duke Nukem 3D 1.0 demo leak. I read this on the Duke Nukem Wiki and the Cutton Room Floor.

Are LameDuke and Duke Nukem 3D 1.0 demo leaked the same thing or different?

TerminX

el fundador

#2 Posted 26 January 2012 - 08:25 PM

1.0 wasn't a leak, though 0.99 was. Neither are the same as LameDuke.

nukemania

#3 Posted 26 January 2012 - 08:42 PM

What's the 0.99 version about, in that case?

Also, what is the 1.0 version like, if any info at all?

This post has been edited by nukemania: 26 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#4 Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:29 AM

Look out! It's a firetruck!

nukemania

#5 Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:04 AM

Nice!

This post has been edited by nukemania: 27 January 2012 - 07:09 PM

nukemania

#6 Posted 27 January 2012 - 07:10 PM

So, I'd like to know if this beta version 0.99 is supported by the latest EDuke32... or if not, how can I play it on Windows XP? I tried DOSBox, but it is crashing on it.

Inspector Lagomorf

Glory To Motherland!

#7 Posted 27 January 2012 - 07:14 PM

Seems to run fine under DOSBox for me, but as it is a beta copy, it's likely to crash a lot. SW Beta crashes for me rather frequently. Probably no chance of getting it to run under EDuke32.<br>

This post has been edited by The Mighty Bison: 27 January 2012 - 07:15 PM

nukemania

#8 Posted 27 January 2012 - 07:28 PM

What's your DOSBox version? And do you just run the Duke3D exe without setup?

Inspector Lagomorf

Glory To Motherland!

#9 Posted 27 January 2012 - 07:30 PM

0.74. I usually run Setup first to make sure all of my settings are calibrated.

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#10 Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:09 AM

nukemania, on 27 January 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

So, I'd like to know if this beta version 0.99 is supported by the latest EDuke32... or if not, how can I play it on Windows XP? I tried DOSBox, but it is crashing on it.

You would absolutely not want to do this to get the full experience of the prototype. Many of the differences compared to later versions of the game are not just in the art/sounds/maps but also in the executable itself, and you would be missing a large amount. Crashes included.

However, to investigate the maps in Mapster32 which may be interesting, simply pass the -g<grpname> parameter to the command line.

nukemania

#11 Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:08 AM

Why am I unable to run it? I keep getting an error about invalid or conflicting DMA channels, and to make sure the 16 bit DMA channel is correct.

Inspector Lagomorf

Glory To Motherland!

#12 Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:31 AM

That's a sound card error. Make sure your sound settings are calibrated correctly. When you launch DOSBox, note the following line:

"Z:\>SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 T6"

...where I is IRQ, D is 8-bit DMA, and H is 16-bit DMA. When you open up SETUP.exe, select "Sound Blaster" for your sound FX card, and make sure you enter the appropriate numbers.

nukemania

#13 Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:43 AM

THANK YOU!

nukemania

#14 Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:50 PM

UPDATE: Here's a question: why is Duke Nukem turning almost 180 degrees when I jump (hit A)?

Micky C

Honored Donor

#15 Posted 28 January 2012 - 02:00 PM

My theory is that they initially wanted to copy Sonic's motion when he jumped on a spring in Sonic CD.

http://www.youtube.c...pGm6x7woI#t=18s

nukemania

#16 Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:14 PM

Actually, it seemed to be a problem with my DOSBox, but I fixed it

Anyway, does anyone know how to reach the Battlelord in this version? I'm stuck and there seems to be no way to proceed where I am; I got past the San Andreas Fault and reach the lava river, then climbed up some rocks (near that near-naked chick dancing in a secret). There doesn't seem to be a way to go.

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#17 Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:20 PM

I checked in Mapster32 and the level does have an ending although the boss area is very different. Perhaps you missed a switch somewhere.

nukemania

#18 Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:27 PM

Maybe, but I've been looking for so long now, and going back and forth through some of those backgrounds is giving me a migraine, TBH.
I'd really appreciate it if someone can try the level, too.

nukemania

#19 Posted 31 January 2012 - 10:04 AM

Ok, so I've done with E1 for a while now and have another question in mind.

A while back, I asked how people got to play with the Space Suit in the 0.99 beta. Supposedly, I have to play E2 in the beta, is this true? Because I tried replacing E1L1 of the beta with E2L1 of full version and, as expected, most resources are missing from the level. However, it is much worse than I expected. You can hardly see anything and all E2-based enemies are invisible to say the least. None of the doors/elevators work either.

If this is how broken it will be when using this method, how did people (especially of the Cutting Room Floor) get to do so many things like try the space suit, see the organic turret, etc? None of that stuff appears to work when I do the E1L1-replacement method.

Inspector Lagomorf

Glory To Motherland!

#20 Posted 31 January 2012 - 10:42 AM

They probably added the code for space-style levels before they even considered putting in L2 resources.

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#21 Posted 31 January 2012 - 04:55 PM

^ That's not true at all. All three episodes of the original final game were developed simultaneously. (Yes, I know that there were months between the 1.0 shareware release and the first full release, v1.3D. I attribute this to E2 and E3 each being longer than E1 and needing more polish. As evidenced by the many screenshots released by 3DR over the year of 1995, many locations both seen in E2 and E3 as well as never seen in the final at all existed.) However, using some method, automated or manual, 3D Realms stripped out all the art and sounds that were not used by the shareware levels or weapons.

Once work gets in gear with Kraigose' art program I intend to add functionality that will allow us to "patch" what art exists for the shareware over the final v1.3D grp so we can optimally play E2 and E3 with the 0.99 executable. After that, "patching" the sounds is a very simple file copy operation, and we also need to add in art for the space suit ripped from said screenshots for the most complete experience possible.

Of course, there still remains the hope to find a "holy grail" of a prototype of the full version.

This post has been edited by Hendricks266: 31 January 2012 - 05:02 PM

High Treason

#22 Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:35 PM

I want this prototype to appear;
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It seems to be halfway between LameDuke and V0.99

Fox

Fraka kaka kaka kaka-kow!

#23 Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:04 PM

That's a lot closer to LameDuke than 0.99...

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#24 Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

My favorite beta screenshots:

I forget how I found this one but I believe it was from TCRF. There were three jpeg-format screenshots, and of the three I have never seen a proper PCX version of only this one. (The uploader found them on an old website already in JPEG.) It is the only shot I know of showing the pre-Freezer Flamethrower IN ACTION. Also, pretty blue crystal. (Note: Either the flame thrower or "laser gun" is in v0.99. Quick tip: The registered weapons can be selected in the beta by using DNWEAPONS then running out of ammo of all other weapons.)
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I don't recognize the health pack in the corner of this one.
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Flamethrower Enforcer: (Interesting fact: the Enforcer arm gib still has the flamethrower instead of the chaingun.)
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Space Suit!
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Weirdass HUD, although this is after the shot High Treason showed because the Kills box has been replaced with Keys and Inventory. This looks like a cool area and I don't recognize it, and the shrinker has fullbrights as its lights on the edges.
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cool city, Enforcer RPV
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I really like this area and the skybox is cool.
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Enforcer RPV, weird thing in the left HUD corner which is in some shots
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A classic. This looks to be the same area as the screenshot above with the fullbright shrinker edges.
This shows both the Enforcer RPV and the old "fire"/"lava"/"molten (metal)" Enforcer.
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Hank

#25 Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

The fifth and last is image looks like E2L8.
Whatever happened to the city?

Lunick

#26 Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:35 PM

Thanks for the screenshots Hendricks, man I wish we could find that version of Duke somewhere.

Hendricks266

Weaponized Autism

#27 Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:47 PM

These are many separate versions of Duke represented by all the screenshots that we have. You can see a progression, particularly with the HUD. Also, I only posted my favorites. There are more, I know RTCM has at least some.

RTCM says that these came from slideshows released on five different dates:

6/1/95
6/11/95
6/30/95
8/11/95
11/19/95

For reference:
LameDuke: 12/30/94
v0.99: 1/4/96
v1.0: 1/29/96
v1.1: 2/20/96
v1.3D Registered: 4/19/96
v1.3D Shareware: 4/24/96
v1.4: 10/10/96
v1.5: 12/11/96
Mac Shareware: 7/4/97

Hank, on 02 February 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Whatever happened to the city?

Looks like E3L4, L.A. Rumble.

This post has been edited by Hendricks266: 02 February 2012 - 07:56 PM

Lunick

#28 Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:08 PM

After making my comment I noticed how some of them differed from the others aha.

High Treason

#29 Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:34 PM

I always wanted to know why floor mirrors didn't work;
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Here's another "E2L8" - I think from under the tower in hendricks's screenie;
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Is it me, or did some sprites look better before the palette was changed;
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For the sake of it, Scuba Gear;
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I still wanna know if the red symbols in the HUD were like the eyes in the HUD in Blood;
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If you think of E1L2 in V0.99, the blue key room makes sense;
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I remember a thread like this, was over here; http://forums.duke4....h__1#entry27967

Hank

#30 Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:35 PM

Hendricks266, on 02 February 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

If the references are correct, I can't find the map in the shareware version. - Yes, the big screen is like in LA Rumble, but the map is more like a court yard, this image seems to be a street. Posted Image