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THE inspiration for Duke Nukem (even down to the pink top and name from film title)

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http://www.youtube.c...h?v=hS3flhxT99c

His acting name is Brick Bronsky and his real name is Jeffrey Beltzner

Get this guy to play Duke now (in the film not at home on his Xbox).

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View PostSinisterambo, on Sep 4 2010, 10:04 AM, said:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=hS3flhxT99c

His acting name is Brick Bronsky and his real name is Jeffrey Beltzner

Get this guy to play Duke now (in the film not at home on his Xbox).

I know that Duke seems to be getting younger with each sequel for some stupid unknown reasons but I can assure you that the actor in that movie doesn't!
You do realize that he's probably old as shit and not that buff anymore right?

This post has been edited by 3dwizard: 04 September 2010 - 09:34 PM

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View Post3dwizard, on Sep 5 2010, 06:33 AM, said:

I know that Duke seems to be getting younger with each sequel for some stupid unknown reasons but I can assure you that the actor in that movie doesn't!
You do realize that he's probably old as shit and not that buff anymore right?


Suppose.
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It'd be funny if Duke said he went to Nuke 'em High.

Other then that? No. He has a tank top, but he doesnt have any of the charisma or attitude of Duke.
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Nice, Youtube didn't block out the video despite all the bare tits.

And wow, that's totally Duke.
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View PostCommando Nukem, on Sep 5 2010, 06:52 AM, said:

It'd be funny if Duke said he went to Nuke 'em High.

Other then that? No. He has a tank top, but he doesnt have any of the charisma or attitude of Duke.


I see the connection with the tank top and how Duke used to have a pink tank top and the babes and what not but yeah I think you are right. He doesn't even shoot any mutants or anything. But who's to say they didn't get some inspiration from there? They where inspired by many things.

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A good number of Arnold's older movies have him at least looking a lot like what you see in Duke Nukem 1/2. I'm not sure if he ever sported a tank top or even red in a movie, but it wouldn't surprise me at least a little.
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View PostMr.Flibble, on Sep 5 2010, 02:58 PM, said:

A good number of Arnold's older movies have him at least looking a lot like what you see in Duke Nukem 1/2. I'm not sure if he ever sported a tank top or even red in a movie, but it wouldn't surprise me at least a little.

Last Action Hero
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No tank top but a red shirt, jeans and a belt with a belt buckle. Not to mention an over the top action hero with references\parody's to other action movies.

Check out his action figure:
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I used to have an action figure of him but it looked closer to Arnold than the one above... and was still very Duke'ish.

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View PostTetsuo, on Sep 6 2010, 01:10 AM, said:

Last Action Hero
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No tank top but a red shirt, jeans and a belt with a belt buckle. Not to mention an over the top action hero with references\parody's to other action movies.


yea and duke even owned him with one of his epic lines :D
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I am a very big fan of both Duke and Arnold but imho Arnold as the Terminator in T2 looks more bad ass than Duke.
I mean just look at him!
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He doesn't joke he never smiles he never talks, he just scores fatalities!
Sure we like Duke for being a human and honestly he would be a great guy to go against the Terminator and kill him.
If Sarah Conor could kill the terminator, Duke would definitely be able to do it so I think we all agree that Duke is much more efficient than a T-800 but I still think Arnold looks more bad ass in T2 than Duke lol!

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View PostTetsuo, on Sep 6 2010, 03:10 AM, said:

Last Action Hero


First two games came out before Last Action Hero.

While his T2 is great, the most badass Arnie is in Commando:
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View PostLotan, on Sep 5 2010, 09:25 PM, said:

First two games came out before Last Action Hero.

While his T2 is great, the most badass Arnie is in Commando:
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Arnold played different styles of bad ass and I agree that in Commando he is a big muscly bad ass that shows his strength and his muscles all the time but in terminator he is not about muscles, he is about being a cold bad ass mother fucker.
He is always dressed in dark leather wearing sunglasses and being an implied bad ass driving a cool Harley.
He doesn't need to show his muscles in T2 to understand how big of a killer he is.
In Commando he looks more like Duke Nukem
I mean look at these pic, it's so Duke Nukemish
I can't believe how much these 2 pics look alike after I edited the one on the right :D
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But it all boils to the style of his character.
In commando he is a meathead like Duke is, while in T2 he is an intelligent strategic death machine.

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View PostLotan, on Sep 5 2010, 09:25 PM, said:

First two games came out before Last Action Hero.


Ah, yeah but not before Duke3D and his look in it. :D

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He's not sporting his Duke3D look here.

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View PostTetsuo, on Sep 5 2010, 09:50 PM, said:

Ah, yeah but not before Duke3D and his look in it. :D

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He's not sporting his Duke3D look here.

Let's be honest now. It's so obvious that in the first 2 Duke Nukem games, they've decided how the character will look in probably 10 mins.
The old duke has nothing in common with duke3d. He didn't wear glasses, his face was ugly as hell, he had freaking pink on him lol.
I remember playing those Duke Nukem games when I was a kid and I really enjoyed them somehow but when Duke Nukem 3d came out, it had nothing in common with them.
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View PostTetsuo, on Sep 6 2010, 01:50 AM, said:

He's not sporting his Duke3D look here.


He's sporting the sunburnt, pink shirt look in the first game. Looks bad ass. :D

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View Post3dwizard, on Sep 5 2010, 10:57 PM, said:

Let's be honest now. It's so obvious that in the first 2 Duke Nukem games, they've decided how the character will look in probably 10 mins.
The old duke has nothing in common with duke3d. He didn't wear glasses, his face was ugly as hell, he had freaking pink on him lol.
I remember playing those Duke Nukem games when I was a kid and I really enjoyed them somehow but when Duke Nukem 3d came out, it had nothing in common with them.


It was all about the limitations at the time. They always intended to have Duke wearing red in the first game, but never ended up getting the colors right. There are even some left over sprites of a Duke sprite that people seem to think is supposed to be black. He's not, just a different skin color with a red shirt.

They really need to remake the first two games for Xbox Live and PC as a budget release.
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View PostCommando Nukem, on Sep 5 2010, 10:09 PM, said:

It was all about the limitations at the time. They always intended to have Duke wearing red in the first game, but never ended up getting the colors right. There are even some left over sprites of a Duke sprite that people seem to think is supposed to be black. He's not, just a different skin color with a red shirt.

They really need to remake the first two games for Xbox Live and PC as a budget release.

Trust me, if they ever remake them with HD sprites or 3d side scrolling graphics, the games will most likely got on psn and xboxlive.
They never release such remakes on pc, I noticed it's a common habit for all developers.
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View PostLotan, on Sep 6 2010, 01:25 AM, said:

First two games came out before Last Action Hero.

Especially Duke Nukem 1, less so Duke Nukum 2, the Duke character is less evolved and certainly is not exactly like Duke3D. That said, who is to say that the Last Action Hero wasn't reciprocating the inspiration and basing Arnold's character on Duke who was based on Arnold....whoa.
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LAH and Duke2 have one big thing in common.

Megadeth - Angry Again.
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View Post3dwizard, on Sep 5 2010, 06:33 AM, said:

I know that Duke seems to be getting younger with each sequel for some stupid unknown reasons but I can assure you that the actor in that movie doesn't!
You do realize that he's probably old as shit and not that buff anymore right?


I'd go further, stating he may even have died of a heart attack, due to steroid abuse in his younger 'roid-raging days. Happens to a lot of those guys. Heart bypasses and such. Lulz.
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View PostCommando Nukem, on Sep 6 2010, 10:45 AM, said:

LAH and Duke2 have one big thing in common.

Megadeth - Angry Again.

Yes I forgot to mention this but have thought of it.. the hard rock and explosions. Not to mention there was a scene in LAH with babes both after an action scene and when Arnold and sidekick went to the video store. They are also both fond of one liners and similar weaponry. But like I said 3D Realms took\stole inspiration from quite a few sources and this is just one of them. Duke is sort of like a mash-up of Jack Slater, Ash and Rowdy Roddy Piper (he coined the term kick ass and chew bubble gum in the movie "They Live"). Rowdy Roddy Piper sported the shades that let him identify aliens as well.

The big difference between Jack Slater (the character in LAH) and Duke is Jack's a cop and Duke is just a bad ass who helps out sometimes. In fact does he even have an official job title? What organization is he a member of?

One last thing LAH was a self parody of Arnold (he even makes fun of his "I'll be back" line) and action movies in general and Duke3D is a parody of action heroes and movies so IMHO they have quite a bit in common.

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View PostTetsuo, on Sep 8 2010, 02:31 PM, said:

Yes I forgot to mention this but have thought of it.. the hard rock and explosions. Not to mention there was a scene in LAH with babes both after an action scene and when Arnold and sidekick went to the video store. They are also both fond of one liners and similar weaponry. But like I said 3D Realms took\stole inspiration from quite a few sources and this is just one of them. Duke is sort of like a mash-up of Jack Slater, Ash and Rowdy Roddy Piper (he coined the term kick ass and chew bubble gum in the movie "They Live"). Rowdy Roddy Piper sported the shades that let him identify aliens as well.

The big difference between Jack Slater (the character in LAH) and Duke is Jack's a cop and Duke is just a bad ass who helps out sometimes. In fact does he even have an official job title? What organization is he a member of?

One last thing LAH was a self parody of Arnold (he even makes fun of his "I'll be back" line) and action movies in general and Duke3D is a parody of action heroes and movies so IMHO they have quite a bit in common.


Near as I can tell, Duke is like some sort of mercenary. He's paid specifically to "kick ass." When hes not saving the world, hes appearing in movies (Dead Hard, Lunar Apocalypse) and video games, and running his casino and so forth. And of course, Duke Burger. :D
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View PostCommando Nukem, on Sep 8 2010, 02:14 PM, said:

Duke Burger. :D


Whose secret ingredient is dog meat apparently. :D
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View PostTetsuo, on Sep 9 2010, 08:01 AM, said:

What organization is he a member of?


The Earth Defense Force. Actually is it called the Earth Defense force or the Earth Defense Forces?
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View PostMicky C, on Sep 9 2010, 12:26 AM, said:

The Earth Defense Force. Actually is it called the Earth Defense force or the Earth Defense Forces?


Its the Earth Defense Force... and no, hes not officially considered a member. He's a gun for hire.
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True, but I guess the Earth Defense Force is the closest thing Duke has to a proper job. Weren't they the ones to got him to fight Dr Proton?
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View PostMicky C, on Sep 9 2010, 02:09 AM, said:

True, but I guess the Earth Defense Force is the closest thing Duke has to a proper job. Weren't they the ones to got him to fight Dr Proton?


In a retcon i'd imagine that'd be the case. In the original game it says the CIA hires him.
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I would argue Duke is inspired by Ash more than anything.

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The boxart and a few of the one liners, yeah.

The rest of him comes from Arnold, Sly, Eastwood, Roddy Piper, and John Wayne.
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You know, in spite of the fact that Duke is an obvious parody (read "rip-off") of action heroes, I still treat him as a unique entity, someone with a mythical reputation of his own, sort of like Rambo or the Terminator.
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